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There's no doubt Levy would love to have had a naming rights deal sewn up long before now. But he obviously hasn't managed to negotiate one that he feels is financially acceptable.
I guess the problem is, any serious sponsor prepared to meet his valuatiion would want their brand to be associated with winners. But under his stewardship we just don't win.
Harsh, maybe. But also an unavoidable fact.
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It might pay off for fans.
It also might just have the effect that fees and wages everywhere lower because selling clubs can no longer demand mind bending fees.
It doesn't mean we're suddenly going to be able to outspend everyone else. It may mean we can pay as much as they can afford. That doesn't mean we're guaranteed to get players ahead of them.
It doesn't, but it puts us on par with them. Which we haven't been until now. So it still gives us a better chance than we ever had in the past. The deciding factor will be what brand of football we play and whether it can be successful, and it looks like we are heading in the right direction in this regard. As long as we don't stray from it, we'll be as attractive an option as any other big club.
 
You can tell he's running out of ammo when he comes up with complete shite like that.
Which bit do you disagree with mate?

You think he wouldn't have a naming rights deal in place if he had a great offer he thought financially acceptable?

Or perhaps you think one league cup sixteen years ago actually projects the club as winners in the eyes of any potential partner willing to invest millions

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Which bit do you disagree with mate?

You think he wouldn't have a naming rights deal in place if he had a great offer he thought financially acceptable?

Or perhaps you think one league cup sixteen years ago actually projects the club as winners in the eyes of any potential partner willing to invest millions

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I was gonna answer this properly but seeing as it's such a dumb point to make I'll just humour you with these


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That is really not going to put us over the top. It may add £20-30 million a year to a £500 million turnover. Keeping the name as is with the brand recognition it will provide may have bigger commercial benefits in the short to medium term. Once we have maxed out on those then we can consider naming rights, but by that time it may be an even smaller drop in the bucket.
The big megabucks stadium rights deals were starting to fall away even before Covid. There's just no return on that investment. No way we'd make 20-30 million per year.
 
In honour of our resident lyricist Ed Vanderlay, I have put this little ditty together for City's latest legal counsel...

Shaggy

Arbitrator came and caught me Red handed, trying to circumvent the law,
Picture this we were paid £10M for a name on our toilet door,
How could I forget that all our sponsorship is Qatari?
All this time they were watching us sportwashing all our blood money.

Charged for fraudulent accounting? Wasn't me,
Payments coming from your family?
Wasn't me,
Tried to stop investigation,
Wasn't me,
Your club is owned by a nation!
 
Anyone who doesn't understand that increasing revenue will lead to being able to buy and pay better players, which will lead to success on the pitch. As well as anyone who cannot understand that you don't stop doing the things that will get the club into a stronger position in the long term while you are trying to figure out how to properly run the football side.

Even the staunchest Levy supporters recognize that he has made mistakes on the football side of things. On the flip side, the staunchest Levy haters just continue to hate and make stupid belittling comments. We could win a ton of silverware in the next 10-15 years thanks to the position we are now in and they will still not give an ounce of credit to the vision that gets us there. Pretty pathetic.
Not getting at you, mate, but if you're going to try and jump on me, you need to read all the posts I made carefully.

I am not against any business that they conduct that increases revenue (and I don't think many people are). They can release a subterranean Ange World with kangaroo boxing and a didgeridoo water slide for all I care. I was being critical of the timing of their announcements in relation to what was happening on the pitch. I said it was winding some of us up, which is actual factual.

I'm not sure if you're lumping me in with folk who want Levy out (I most certainly wanted him out or to have other people making the decisions on the football side of things this time last year), but I also said Levy in. Not a hater of anything that's happening at present. He clearly realised that the way he was conducting affairs wasn't working. Long may it continue and fingers crossed we never end back up in that farcical state again.
 
Anyone who doesn't understand that increasing revenue will lead to being able to buy and pay better players, which will lead to success on the pitch. As well as anyone who cannot understand that you don't stop doing the things that will get the club into a stronger position in the long term while you are trying to figure out how to properly run the football side.

Even the staunchest Levy supporters recognize that he has made mistakes on the football side of things. On the flip side, the staunchest Levy haters just continue to hate and make stupid belittling comments. We could win a ton of silverware in the next 10-15 years thanks to the position we are now in and they will still not give an ounce of credit to the vision that gets us there. Pretty pathetic.
Vision or luck? But of both but happy days

We seem to have increase revenue but not increased wages, even greater foundation to bubble into the top
 
Not getting at you, mate, but if you're going to try and jump on me, you need to read all the posts I made carefully.

I am not against any business that they conduct that increases revenue (and I don't think many people are). They can release a subterranean Ange World with kangaroo boxing and a didgeridoo water slide for all I care. I was being critical of the timing of their announcements in relation to what was happening on the pitch. I said it was winding some of us up, which is actual factual.

I'm not sure if you're lumping me in with folk who want Levy out (I most certainly wanted him out or to have other people making the decisions on the football side of things this time last year), but I also said Levy in. Not a hater of anything that's happening at present. He clearly realised that the way he was conducting affairs wasn't working. Long may it continue and fingers crossed we never end back up in that farcical state again.
I'm not trying to jump on you, but you have to admit that complaining about the timing of these announcements is a bit nitpicky. These things will be announced when they happen. Just because they may happen to coincide with bad form on the pitch should the club just brush them under the carpet and wait for when the results pick up?

I'm not saying this is you, but it's these kinds of gripes that give the impression that, no matter how good Levy does, people will always find a way to beat him up with something.
 
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