FIFA testing changes to the offside rule

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As can be clearly seen the player about to receive the ball is going to be offside but what if the player who is going to make the pass, slices his pass, and it goes in the (invisible) goal. Is that goal going to be deemed to be offside?
The goalie shouldn't be wearing a predominantly red shirt.
 
I loved football when you could jump up and celebrate when our team scored.
This new and 'improved' version is shit.
The sport is doomed if it can't get that back.

We will look back someday and have no idea how everyone didn't immediately identify what a cancer on the game making every exciting moment subject to a subsequent pause for video review was.
 
The sport is doomed if it can't get that back.

We will look back someday and have no idea how everyone didn't immediately identify what a cancer on the game making every exciting moment subject to a subsequent pause for video review was.
Eh, to a degree VAR gets a bad rap. It wasn't exciting or fun when we lost points because of an obvious lino fuck up.

The issue with VAR is the V. It's 2023, it's not hard to create a system for offsides that eliminates the need for video review and results in an instantaneous on/off binary decision. And, at the end of the day, that's all the system should be used for. It all sports the frame by frame analysis of subjective calls is a fuckup (just look at the NFL where no one knows what a "catch" actually is anymore). Fouls all look intentional/cynical in slow motion, and should be decided at full speed, in the moment. The only exception should be for violent conduct off the ball and diving in the box, which is where VAR ought to be shining.
 
It's 2023, it's not hard to create a system for offsides that eliminates the need for video review and results in an instantaneous on/off binary decision.
I think that actually is kinda hard? It seems theoretically possible for it to be like goal line technology, but I don't think we're there yet.

And, at the end of the day, that's all the system should be used for. It all sports the frame by frame analysis of subjective calls is a fuckup
This is what drives me insane with VAR and offside in soccer.

Every time a goal is replayed on TV now, the replay freezes at the moment every ball in the buildup is played, so the viewer is forced into the role of Amateur VAR Sleuth, that being the most important thing for a savvy viewer to be.

It's an AWFUL viewing experience.

And like, maybe just....don't? Like who made the decision to do broadcast the games that way?

There's like a bizarre halfwit journalistic integrity hangup with sports broadcasts where they pore over the entrails of every refereeing decision like it's the Zapruder Film.

The game is supposed to be entertainment, it's supposed to be fun. Whether in the stadium or on TV those in charge of the game are fools to ever lose sight of that.
 
I think that actually is kinda hard? It seems theoretically possible for it to be like goal line technology, but I don't think we're there yet.
Perhaps you're unaware that they now accomplish moving millions of cubic meters of soil, accurate to within millimeters, by setting up a local GPS system and loading in a computer program?

At the PL level it is 100% possible to place tags on the players' shoulders, boots, and the ball and automate offside calls with an accuracy that's both faster and more exact than VAR.

Difficult at lower levels because of cost, but there's no reason at all that this cannot be done at the PL/CL level.

Every time a goal is replayed on TV now, the replay freezes at the moment every ball in the buildup is played, so the viewer is forced into the role of Amateur VAR Sleuth, that being the most important thing for a savvy viewer to be.

It's an AWFUL viewing experience.

And like, maybe just....don't? Like who made the decision to do broadcast the games that way?

There's like a bizarre halfwit journalistic integrity hangup with sports broadcasts where they pore over the entrails of every refereeing decision like it's the Zapruder Film.

The game is supposed to be entertainment, it's supposed to be fun. Whether in the stadium or on TV those in charge of the game are fools to ever lose sight of that.
Well, at one point it was meant to be entertainment. Then it became "professional" and it became entertainment business. Hard to make the case to turn off technology and go back to getting calls wrong when there's millions of pounds at stake. You could choose not to broadcast the replays, but then you'd get people claiming the sport is rigged and that's why they don't show you the replays of the decisions.

No way to go backwards with tech, I'm afraid. See: nuclear weapons.
 
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Well, at one point it was meant to be entertainment. Then it became "professional" and it became entertainment business.
And the business is entertaining people. Every penny comes, directly or indirectly, from the fans.

We now live in a world where we can wonder why we ever put up with baseball players adjusting their batting gloves between every pitch. May the same come soon for VAR.
 
And the business is entertaining people. Every penny comes, directly or indirectly, from the fans.

We now live in a world where we can wonder why we ever put up with baseball players adjusting their batting gloves between every pitch. May the same come soon for VAR.
The institution of the pitch clock in major league baseball was a direct response to declining ratings and complaints from networks. Football simply doesn't have that problem.
 
Eh, to a degree VAR gets a bad rap. It wasn't exciting or fun when we lost points because of an obvious lino fuck up.

The issue with VAR is the V. It's 2023, it's not hard to create a system for offsides that eliminates the need for video review and results in an instantaneous on/off binary decision. And, at the end of the day, that's all the system should be used for. It all sports the frame by frame analysis of subjective calls is a fuckup (just look at the NFL where no one knows what a "catch" actually is anymore). Fouls all look intentional/cynical in slow motion, and should be decided at full speed, in the moment. The only exception should be for violent conduct off the ball and diving in the box, which is where VAR ought to be shining.


The trouble is we are still getting shit decisions even with VAR.
 
The trouble is we are still getting shit decisions even with VAR.
Statistically speaking, we are getting significantly fewer shit decisions. Nothing is perfect, VAR is a pain in the ass, and slow motion replay has created a situation where we're getting different calls (mainly subjective fouls) wrong now. But, on the whole, it's objectively improved the officiating of the sport.
 
Statistically speaking, we are getting significantly fewer shit decisions. Nothing is perfect, VAR is a pain in the ass, and slow motion replay has created a situation where we're getting different calls (mainly subjective fouls) wrong now. But, on the whole, it's objectively improved the officiating of the sport.
Yes but it hasnt eliminated terrible decisions and has destroyed a lot of enjoyment of the game. Which is just a huge net loss
 
The institution of the pitch clock in major league baseball was a direct response to declining ratings and complaints from networks. Football simply doesn't have that problem.
I'd like a pitch clock in football for the last 15 minutes of a game.

Clock starts and stops every time there's a stoppage in play and then half that time is added on at the end.

Time wasting is bollocks and when players go down just to run the clock down it's just plain cheating as well as goalies taking an age to take a goal kick.
 
I'd like a pitch clock in football for the last 15 minutes of a game.

Clock starts and stops every time there's a stoppage in play and then half that time is added on at the end.

Time wasting is bollocks and when players go down just to run the clock down it's just plain cheating as well as goalies taking an age to take a goal kick.
Agree, spoils the game with players cheating to waste time, either what you said or a ref that has the guts to actually red card a keeper for time wasting

Trouble is that would be our keeper!
 
I'd like a pitch clock in football for the last 15 minutes of a game.

Clock starts and stops every time there's a stoppage in play and then half that time is added on at the end.

Time wasting is bollocks and when players go down just to run the clock down it's just plain cheating as well as goalies taking an age to take a goal kick.
A pitch clock won't change much where time wasting is concerned, particularly with players feigning injury. Much of the time, they do it to break up the flow of a game, or to stop the opposition building momentum.

In truth, the only way the "dark arts" are going to be killed off is if there's a full review of the laws, alongside a committed crackdown on diving, professional fouling and any other element that teams employ to essentially cheat.

Two hopes of that ever happening though, and one of them's Bob.
 
Statistically speaking, we are getting significantly fewer shit decisions. Nothing is perfect, VAR is a pain in the ass, and slow motion replay has created a situation where we're getting different calls (mainly subjective fouls) wrong now. But, on the whole, it's objectively improved the officiating of the sport.
It takes away more than it gives.
 
Perhaps you're unaware that they now accomplish moving millions of cubic meters of soil, accurate to within millimeters, by setting up a local GPS system and loading in a computer program?

At the PL level it is 100% possible to place tags on the players' shoulders, boots, and the ball and automate offside calls with an accuracy that's both faster and more exact than VAR.

Difficult at lower levels because of cost, but there's no reason at all that this cannot be done at the PL/CL level.


Well, at one point it was meant to be entertainment. Then it became "professional" and it became entertainment business. Hard to make the case to turn off technology and go back to getting calls wrong when there's millions of pounds at stake. You could choose not to broadcast the replays, but then you'd get people claiming the sport is rigged and that's why they don't show you the replays of the decisions.

No way to go backwards with tech, I'm afraid. See: nuclear weapons.
It could be simplified further.

All players wear GPS trackers in the middle of their backs.
Just change the rule and use the existing trackers.
 
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