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Match ****Frankfurt v Anges Blue & White Army **** 8pm Thursday 17th of April

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Blanchflower said:
I think he's here until the end of the season regardless, and then leaving then, also regardless of winning the EL or not.
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I'm not so sure. All 6 of our remaining games are massive banana skins, all losable. Some are certain losses with Ange in charge.

I think once the certainty of a trophy is alleviated, Levy will act. He won't want it to be "his" fault Ange wasn't able to win a trophy. Ange is here until we are out of the EL. IMO. Then he's gone.
 
Murphy said:
Of course, but both Kane (and Wanyama) went to Ajax to support the team. The question wasn't about the captain not going, it's about a foot injury stopping him going with the team.

And as we saw from All or Nothing, Kane was the one giving most of the speeches to the team.

Injured players going shows unity. The captain not going when he just has to sit on the sidelines and cheer is a massive oversight. He's either more injured than is being let on, or doesn't want to go. IMO. You couldn't stop a real fighter from going, could you?
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Maybe he's the suspected mole!
 
I get the feeling in Son’s absence he’ll go with odobert over Tel.

Suspect Johnson will play, even though he’ll wilt in any sort of atmosphere. Personally would go Tel Solanke Kulusevski (If fit enough)

The rest of the team will be as expected

Vic

Porro Romero VDV Udogie (prob)

Berg Bentancur Maddison
 
Mick Cooper said:
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Its nearly time, and fortunately there are no long wordy thoughts to express, its all in the heart now where the desperate desire to find a way to win and keep Spurs flame alive burns bright

The first leg offered hope, albeit against a backdrop of mostly dismal performances where relief at a disaster averted maybe made it look better than it was. The 1-1 scoreline also sets the mental framework of needing a win and that the job still needs to be done rather than a week worrying how to hold on to a narrow lead (i still have Kaiserslautern nightmares).

I dont really care who Ange picks as long as they are up for it and it works, its all about getting the job done and new heroes emerging.

A dip back through history helps to put the nature of the task ahead in some sort of context. The Europa League still seems quite new but Spurs have somehow played 75 matches with an overall 42-19-14 profile with a strong skew to WHL form which is 28-7-3 against a more modest 14-12-11 on the road. The previous six seasons have been, aside from the nightmare first season, a tale of what might have been

20/21 Dinamo Zagreb 2-0, 0-3 (Last 16)
15/16 Borussia Dortmund 0-3, 1-2 (Last 16)
14/15 Fiorentina 1-1, 0-2 (Last 32)
13/14 Benfica 1-3, 2-2 (Last 16)
12/13 Basel 2-2, 2-2 (pens) (QF)
11/12 group stage

The precursor tournament (UEFA Cup) which Spurs won twice, finished runners up once with an overall record of W-SF-RU-W-QF-2R-QF-L16-L32 show Spurs have a strong overall record at this level, albeit with much of the success in the early days with a more recent tendency to find a way to depart in the spring.

Getting to the QF is about par and its about time we made the breakthrough to return to earlier glories, but history is against us.

The aforementioned Fiorentina game is one of three examples of Spurs taking a 1-1 draw in the first leg at WHL to an away 2nd leg. You may want to look away now as its not pretty .. each and every time its the exit door.

14/15 Fiorentina 1-1, 0-2 (Last 32)
82/83 Bayern Munich 1-1, 1-4 (2R)
81/82 Barcelona 1-1, 0-1 (SF)

a howler from Clemence in the first game gave Spurs a mountain to climb in the Cup Winners Cup semi final against Barcelona, an injury hit Spurs did well to hold Bayern to a draw before getting lost in the fog in the second leg while Soldado for us and Salah for them proved enough for Fiorentina.

The UEFA final in 1974 was also a home draw from the first leg which saw Spurs lose overall on a night of mayhem in Feyenoord, while the Basel debacle in 2012 where both games finished 2-2 before a penalty shoot out exit was much less forgivable.

So all five home draws in the first leg have seen elimination and its an opportunity for this team to step up and make history

It would be quite something to break this and very vivid in the mind is St Lucas of Amsterdam where Spurs took an even less promising 0-1 out there to set up the magic, aided by the much missed away goal ruling. Similarly a 0-1 against PSV was turned around with an away win, only to go out on penalties in 2007/8 in a bitter twist.

With those penalty shoot outs and other soppy exits, it would be lovely to think its all going to come together, where all the angst and frustration give way to Spurs rising again as the cup kings.

I'm not sure how or what sort of score but I'm going to keep believing until there is no hope left

Caaaaaaahm on yooooooooooooo Spurs!
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FOK said:
I get the feeling in Son’s absence he’ll go with odobert over Tel.

Suspect Johnson will play, even though he’ll wilt in any sort of atmosphere. Personally would go Tel Solanke Kulusevski (If fit enough)

The rest of the team will be as expected

Vic

Porro Romero VDV Udogie (prob)

Berg Bentancur Maddison
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I'd like him to go for more of a 442, as below.....but he won't

Vicario
Porro Romero Van de Ven Udogie
Kulusevski Bentancur Bergvall Maddison
Solanke Tel
 
I'm oddly enough not even nervous about tonight. I was so angry and pissed off last Thursday that I've already resigned myself to the fact that we are going out of this competition tonight. I've even planned my whole Friday on the assumption that Spurs will lose and I'll be depressed.

SO I've built myself into a good scenario where tonight feels like a free roll. I've already accepted we are losing. I have no hope. I fully expect us to be 2-0 down after 20 mins. I expect us to absolutely crumble under their atmostphere. I expect another gutless away performance where Maddison goes short at every corner and doesn't complete one successful tackle. As far as I'm concerned we lost this tie last week when we failed to beat them at home.

Now Spurs..... PLEASE GO AND SHOCK ME!!! COYS
 
Don Pedro said:
I'm oddly enough not even nervous about tonight. I was so angry and pissed off last Thursday that I've already resigned myself to the fact that we are going out of this competition tonight. I've even planned my whole Friday on the assumption that Spurs will lose and I'll be depressed.

SO I've built myself into a good scenario where tonight feels like a free roll. I've already accepted we are losing. I have no hope. I fully expect us to be 2-0 down after 20 mins. I expect us to absolutely crumble under their atmostphere. I expect another gutless away performance where Maddison goes short at every corner and doesn't complete one successful tackle. As far as I'm concerned we lost this tie last week when we failed to beat them at home.

Now Spurs..... PLEASE GO AND SHOCK ME!!! COYS
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Free roll?

You mean Free Hit?
 
Don Pedro said:
I'm oddly enough not even nervous about tonight. I was so angry and pissed off last Thursday that I've already resigned myself to the fact that we are going out of this competition tonight. I've even planned my whole Friday on the assumption that Spurs will lose and I'll be depressed.

SO I've built myself into a good scenario where tonight feels like a free roll. I've already accepted we are losing. I have no hope. I fully expect us to be 2-0 down after 20 mins. I expect us to absolutely crumble under their atmostphere. I expect another gutless away performance where Maddison goes short at every corner and doesn't complete one successful tackle. As far as I'm concerned we lost this tie last week when we failed to beat them at home.

Now Spurs..... PLEASE GO AND SHOCK ME!!! COYS
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I thought we played well last Thursday and were unlucky not to win. Hit the woodwork a couple of times and their keeper made some great saves.
 
Played well for about 25 mins and should have scored more last week - def should have a lead going into tonight.

I keep saying it to myself before every big game though - SURELY they can get themselves up for
a london derby
a second leg at Anfield
a cup game at Villa park
a NLD
The first leg last week
now tonight!
Theres absolutely nothing to draw any confidence from whatsoever here but I am still hoping for something from them.

Ange will be gone in the morning or we are in a semi - only way to look at it.
 
Heading off for some R&R.

Next time I look at anything Spurs related I hope we are semi finalists in the 2025 Europa League.

2025 TFC east stand premium seat “shoes in the air party” will be all systems go.

Don’t let me down Tottenham!!!

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