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Legend Glenn Hoddle

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Shotgunofmichalebrow said:
I don't care how many goals Robson scored he was half the footballer Hoddel was.
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Glenn Hoddle was my footballing hero.

He was the stand out player in the first Spurs team I ever supported and remained the best player when better players arrived at the tail end of the 70's and the early to mid 80's.

When he left in 87 I have to confess I lost a bit of interest in Spurs and never really felt the same way about it for at least 4 years. Gascoigne was good but he wasn't Hoddle.

Having said all that; Glenn Hoddle's record against Woolwich was a disgrace.

Hoddle never scored a goal against Woolwich, in open play, throughout his Spurs playing career.

He played in most of the games too.

No excuse for that.

Woolwich in the late 70's / early 80's were not all that.

They were pretty shite if the truth were to be told.
 
Good comments about the Hoddle era.I can remember the brickbats well "doesn't tackle/track back" What he did do was sublime but Robson was a phenomenal player as well.
Strange of the old Speedo to include peanut head in a comparison
 
Kosher Kid said:
Glenn Hoddle was my footballing hero.

He was the stand out player in the first Spurs team I ever supported and remained the best player when better players arrived at the tail end of the 70's and the early to mid 80's.

When he left in 87 I have to confess I lost a bit of interest in Spurs and never really felt the same way about it for at least 4 years. Gascoigne was good but he wasn't Hoddle.

Having said all that; Glenn Hoddle's record against Woolwich was a disgrace.

Hoddle never scored a goal against Woolwich, in open play, throughout his Spurs playing career.

He played in most of the games too.

No excuse for that.

Woolwich in the late 70's / early 80's were not all that.

They were pretty shite if the truth were to be told.
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Lucky for Glenn he was your hero or you might have put the boot in
 
Tomo said:
Interesting Wenger worked with Bergkamp and Henry and rates Hoddle as the most talented he worked with

"He is the most skilful player I have ever worked with. His control was superb and he had perfect body balance. His skill in both feet was uncanny... I couldn't understand why he hadn't been appreciated in England. Perhaps he was a star in the wrong period, years ahead of his time."
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Because he was Spurs Arsene!
 
Ionman34 said:
It was utterly archaic thinking that never really progressed beyond "win the midfield battle." After that it was just "get it to the forwards."

The only "creativity" that was considered was getting the ball to a winger and sling in a cross. They weren't interested in picking locks, just kicking the door down.

We fell so far behind Europe because of those days, it took us decades to catch up. Even then, we're still well behind the likes of Spain and, in our arrogance, think that we're top of the tree because our league is.

We get the odd top quality creative player every now and then. Since Hoddle we've had Gazza and Beckham, maybe Scholes?. Even now, who could we really say is a World class creative English player? Bellingham? The jury's out on him. Palmer? Far too early for him I think. After them, nothing of note really.

The top names in the PL, when it comes to that type of talent, have invariably been foreign players. De Bruyne, Zola, Silva off the top of my head. I can't recall any English players, particularly in the last decade, that come anywhere near them.
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Scholes has gained a reputation he did not have for most of his playing career.
He was a great box to box midfielder with a great shot. He wasn't a Hoddle or Gazza.
Could not receive the ball on the halfway turn , or thread a perfectly weighted pass.

Later on in his career he successfully moved to deep lying midfielder along with Giggs ( who was a little better at it) at that stage it was simple passes and dictating the tempo

Since Hoddle and Gazza - it's only really been Joe Cole sort of and Foden.
But then players like Hoddle were and are unique for any nationality
 
Charlie F said:
Scholes has gained a reputation he did not have for most of his playing career.
He was a great box to box midfielder with a great shot. He wasn't a Hoddle or Gazza.
Could not receive the ball on the halfway turn , or thread a perfectly weighted pass.

Later on in his career he successfully moved to deep lying midfielder along with Giggs ( who was a little better at it) at that stage it was simple passes and dictating the tempo

Since Hoddle and Gazza - it's only really been Joe Cole sort of and Foden.
But then players like Hoddle were and are unique for any nationality
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That's fair on Scholes, which was why I questioned it. He did have some creativity, but I think he is one of many that highlights my point. Since Hoddle, you could count on the fingers of on hand, and still have more than just your thumb left over, the number of elite creative players that have come from these shores. Less than 5 in 4 decades!

When you think about it, that is a truly disgusting return for one of the top Footballing countries on Earth.

Just take a look at those countries, whose leagues have been considered as "inferior" to ours for many years, and the creative talents they have produced. It beggars belief really. Even tiny Belgium leaves us in their dust in that respect.
 
Kosher Kid said:
Glenn Hoddle was my footballing hero.

He was the stand out player in the first Spurs team I ever supported and remained the best player when better players arrived at the tail end of the 70's and the early to mid 80's.

When he left in 87 I have to confess I lost a bit of interest in Spurs and never really felt the same way about it for at least 4 years. Gascoigne was good but he wasn't Hoddle.

Having said all that; Glenn Hoddle's record against Woolwich was a disgrace.

Hoddle never scored a goal against Woolwich, in open play, throughout his Spurs playing career.

He played in most of the games too.

No excuse for that.

Woolwich in the late 70's / early 80's were not all that.

They were pretty shite if the truth were to be told.
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Gascoigne certainly was good and but for being a plank and wrecking his career , he was on track to be the best player in the world.
Glenn never really performed in finals. I saw him numerous times at Anfield, old Trafford, Leeds ,Everton. Only ever really performed in Pleats team when we won 1-0 at Anfield. Pleat probably only manager who played him as a 10. In today’s football he would have been fantastic.
Lot of ex pros say that Glenn loved himself. Although the likes of Ince, Wright, Scholes, say he was their best ever coach.
 
Ionman34 said:
That's fair on Scholes, which was why I questioned it. He did have some creativity, but I think he is one of many that highlights my point. Since Hoddle, you could count on the fingers of on hand, and still have more than just your thumb left over, the number of elite creative players that have come from these shores. Less than 5 in 4 decades!

When you think about it, that is a truly disgusting return for one of the top Footballing countries on Earth.

Just take a look at those countries, whose leagues have been considered as "inferior" to ours for many years, and the creative talents they have produced. It beggars belief really. Even tiny Belgium leaves us in their dust in that respect.
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Might have to add Cole Palmer to that list. Take Foden out of the all conquering City team and he doe#nt really rate. Never performed for England.
 
Perryman said:
Might have to add Cole Palmer to that list. Take Foden out of the all conquering City team and he doe#nt really rate. Never performed for England.
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I'd agree with that though, as I posted previously, it's a little early for Palmer IMO.

I've been quite vocal, figuratively speaking, about how poor Foden has been for England, and I'd drop him without doubt. He's definitely not a creative player, in the same vein as the types we're talking about. Talented yes, creative? Not in my opinion.
 
Perryman said:
Gascoigne certainly was good and but for being a plank and wrecking his career , he was on track to be the best player in the world.
Glenn never really performed in finals. I saw him numerous times at Anfield, old Trafford, Leeds ,Everton. Only ever really performed in Pleats team when we won 1-0 at Anfield. Pleat probably only manager who played him as a 10. In today’s football he would have been fantastic.
Lot of ex pros say that Glenn loved himself. Although the likes of Ince, Wright, Scholes, say he was their best ever coach.
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Hoddle got us back into the 1981 cup final with the free kick equaliser which led to the replay.

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Hoddle also put the penalty away that won us the F.A. Cup again in 1982.


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I know what you mean though. His best games were not always the big ones.
 
Kosher Kid said:
Hoddle got us back into the 1981 cup final with the free kick equaliser which led to the replay.

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Hoddle also put the penalty away that won us the F.A. Cup again in 1982.


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I know what you mean though. His best games were not always the big ones.
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Tommy Hutchinson’s backside played a big part in 81. In 81 he was marked out if it by Gerry Gow. 87 by Lloyd McGrath. The difference is that in 91 Gascoigne won us the semi v Woolwich on his own. In face he got us through every round and then self destructed in the final. Henry didn’t do much in finals but Drogba scored nearly every time. Don’t think anyone touches Hoddle for skill.
Romero will win us a final just by force of personality.
 
Kosher Kid said:
Hoddle got us back into the 1981 cup final with the free kick equaliser which led to the replay.

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Hoddle also put the penalty away that won us the F.A. Cup again in 1982.


View: https://www.facebook.com/football70s80s/videos/onthisday-in-1982tottenham-beat-qpr-in-the-fa-cup-final-replay-1-0/607522691677262/

I know what you mean though. His best games were not always the big ones.
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Made the equaliser for the final win against City - with an audacious chip.
 
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