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Player Guglielmo Vicario

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Can't believe the amount of critisism and hate going Vicarios way. .

He was excellent yesterday, but still got plenty of vitrol in here. We got lot of problems, our keeper was not one of them, until he was bullied from our own.

The need for a scapegoat or two among part of our fan base, never seems to end, and have sent even better players out the door
He is arguably one of the poorest keepers in the league and one of our biggest issues. He does not command his area at all, in fact the nervousness at set pieces is clearly seen, often due to him flapping at cosses. He is brutal with the ball at his feet, inhibiting our play from the back. He is not a leader, he berates the younger players and had the neck to start waving his hands about after his Fulham mess ups.
Let's not forget that the wonderful goal line clearance in the Europa final by VDV was because Vicario came for a ball and completely messed up, almost costing us dearly.
Would love if he was the answer, but he is so far from it it's scary, he needs to be upgraded asap.
 
Don't embarrass yourself

Freddie Woodman
Stefano Wessels
Christian Fruchtl
Dionysis Chiotis

Want me to take it further and list a load of keepers who were past their best by 25? Really is no problem
Keep going. How did this first guy peak at 20? The 3rd guy played one game with Bayern and 70 with Bayern II. You clearly used AI to make a random list of garbage. 2 random ass 45 year olds and 2 young kids who never even had a peak.
 
Don't embarrass yourself

Freddie Woodman
Stefano Wessels
Christian Fruchtl
Dionysis Chiotis
Steve Coogan Shrug GIF
 
Keep going. How did this first guy peak at 20? The 3rd guy played one game with Bayern and 70 with Bayern II. You clearly used AI to make a random list of garbage. 2 random ass 45 year olds and 2 young kids who never even had a peak.
So did they improve with age?

You should try AI, might be the only time you have intelligence

I'll even try t help you a bit more. The two Germans made debuts for Bayern Munich at a young age, yet never made the shirt their own, so how did they improve? Woodman has quite a superb under 20 international record, yet at top level is a third choice keeper. And you think that's improving?
 
So did they improve with age?

You should try AI, might be the only time you have intelligence

I'll even try t help you a bit more. The two Germans made debuts for Bayern Munich at a young age, yet never made the shirt their own, so how did they improve? Woodman has quite a superb under 20 international record, yet at top level is a third choice keeper. And you think that's improving?

Just to get this right..

You think naming 4 players who played at youth level, but made less appearances at the top level than Alfie Whiteman are "proof" that goalkeepers don't improve past the age of 20??
 
Just to get this right..

You think naming 4 players who played at youth level, but made less appearances at the top level than Alfie Whiteman are "proof" that goalkeepers don't improve past the age of 20??
Jesus wept,

I said originally, that just because a keeper is young it does not automatically mean he gets better with age.
 
So did they improve with age?

You should try AI, might be the only time you have intelligence

I'll even try t help you a bit more. The two Germans made debuts for Bayern Munich at a young age, yet never made the shirt their own, so how did they improve? Woodman has quite a superb under 20 international record, yet at top level is a third choice keeper. And you think that's improving?
Playing one game for Bayern Munich doesn’t mean you’re an elite keeper. He was called up from the 2nd team because of injuries.

You used AI to act like you knew some shit. Embarrassing. Goodbye
 
He is arguably one of the poorest keepers in the league and one of our biggest issues. He does not command his area at all, in fact the nervousness at set pieces is clearly seen, often due to him flapping at cosses. He is brutal with the ball at his feet, inhibiting our play from the back. He is not a leader, he berates the younger players and had the neck to start waving his hands about after his Fulham mess ups.
Let's not forget that the wonderful goal line clearance in the Europa final by VDV was because Vicario came for a ball and completely messed up, almost costing us dearly.
Would love if he was the answer, but he is so far from it it's scary, he needs to be upgraded asap.
This place is fucking mental at times. Vic put in a number of excellent performances when he came back in after his ankle injury. We don’t win the EL last season without him. The only thing fans on here seem to remember is Micky’s goal line clearance, not any saves in the final and EL knockout games leading up to this.

He was terrible last season from set pieces, has improved a bit on that so far this season. His mistakes this season aren’t traditional goalkeeping gaffes, it’s fucking up when he has to do modern keeper duties with his feet which his isn’t comfortable doing. An elite modern keeper should be far better with his feet I get that.

Any talk of the games he single handedly kept us in like Monaco? No that won’t get mentioned. He shouted at golden boy Bergvall last season and has made a couple mistakes this season, has home fans booing him. It’s fucking pathetic. He’s far from perfect but is Italy’s no 2. for a reason also. People on here constantly calling for Kinsky who can’t get close to the Czech national team.

Vic is far from a perfect keeper but is world class in shot stopping and one on ones. In our current state, which superior keepers are available to us?
 
kinsky must be absolutely toilet at shot stopping, the fact he shits all over vicario when it comes to kicking and he still isnt getting game time is madness, if kinsky is as bad at shot stopping as this situation is making him out to be, why did they even buy him in the first place?
 
Think he ends up back in Italy come the summer! He will be 30 years old and inter (maybe even AC will need a keeper if maignan goes for free) are rumoured to like him. Think we get €20m and I can imagine we use that plus some more to go for trafford who will force his way out of city. Think we get a clear run tbh! No other decent side need a keeper and Newcastle won’t go back in after he rejected them for city in the summer
 
Think he ends up back in Italy come the summer! He will be 30 years old and inter (maybe even AC will need a keeper if maignan goes for free) are rumoured to like him. Think we get €20m and I can imagine we use that plus some more to go for trafford who will force his way out of city. Think we get a clear run tbh! No other decent side need a keeper and Newcastle won’t go back in after he rejected them for city in the summer

Only problem there is that Trafford is shit.
 
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