You didn't answer my question.
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Ex-Spurs Player Harry Kane
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You didn't answer my question.
One source is not necessarily more worthy than another, but two credible sources, averaged gives a better understanding. IMHO as somebody who never played professional football but is an armchair genius.
WTF do you do other than post on this forum? Seriously. How does one have 50k posts on this forum. I'm actually quite concerned.
2 goals in the last 10 premier league games.
He needs to take a ton of shots to compensate his conversion rate.
When you have about 3 shots in 3.5 games, I guess we are playing with ten men, because without goals he’s a nothing player now.
One source is not necessarily more worthy than another, but two credible sources, averaged gives a better understanding. IMHO as somebody who never played professional football but is an armchair genius.
My point is that these projected values are next to meaningless.... Particularly without knowing the metrics used to arrive at them.
Ultimately; the only prevailing schools of thought are:
a) What does the buyer value at
b) Of what value is he to the owner.
However... Side context:
Rumour has it Bayern slapped an unofficial £100m pricetag on a 34 year old Lewandowski (who's contract ends in 2023) this past summer..... On that basis, in what world is 28yr old HK only worth £75m?
Then compare by contrast (whatever metric they've chosen) :
Robert Lewandowski - Player profile 24/25
Robert Lewandowski, 36, from Poland ➤ FC Barcelona, since 2022 ➤ Centre-Forward ➤ Market value: €15.00m ➤ * Aug 21, 1988 in Warszawa, Poland
£54m
vs
Harry Kane - Player profile 24/25
Harry Kane, 31, from England ➤ Bayern Munich, since 2023 ➤ Centre-Forward ➤ Market value: €90.00m ➤ * Jul 28, 1993 in London, England
£108m
He's bang average as far as shot conversation rate and goals above xG goals.
I'm not sure where this narrative about Kane being "one of the most clinical strikers in the world" comes from.
Tbh lewan is still in his prime, showing no signs of slowing down and is someone who really looks after himself, guys in incredible shape.My point is that these projected values are next to meaningless.... Particularly without knowing the metrics used to arrive at them.
Ultimately; the only prevailing schools of thought are:
a) What does the buyer value at
b) Of what value is he to the owner.
However... Side context:
Rumour has it Bayern slapped an unofficial £100m pricetag on a 34 year old Lewandowski (who's contract ends in 2023) this past summer..... On that basis, in what world is 28yr old HK only worth £75m?
Then compare by contrast (whatever metric they've chosen) :
Robert Lewandowski - Player profile 24/25
Robert Lewandowski, 36, from Poland ➤ FC Barcelona, since 2022 ➤ Centre-Forward ➤ Market value: €15.00m ➤ * Aug 21, 1988 in Warszawa, Polandwww.transfermarkt.co.uk
£54m
vs
Harry Kane - Player profile 24/25
Harry Kane, 31, from England ➤ Bayern Munich, since 2023 ➤ Centre-Forward ➤ Market value: €90.00m ➤ * Jul 28, 1993 in London, England
£108m
Kane may be 5 years younger but he’s the one who looks less mobile and on a faster decline.
Kane just led the PL in goals and assists and was one of the top scorers at the Euros. I think reports of his supposed decline are a little exaggerated.
I'm not trying to provide a definitive comparison or evaluation..... More proving a point about the validity of sources/metrics of passively placing values on players.
Was Zaha ever worth 80m? Nah....
Was Kane ever worth 200m? Nope.....
Is Grealish worth 100m? LOL....
As I said ultimately it boils down to a subjective tug of war between owner(*) and suitor.
(*In some cases see release clause, but the principal remains).
One thing that does influence Kane's price tag in terms of a domestic trf though is his HG status (ditto Grealish).
He’s paid by ENIC - don’t waste your time mate
No, not "suddenly better." It's been that way for a while and a few fans in here have been pointing it our for a while. Our results/record without Kane is undeniable.
Kane benefited from the club/ownership leaning into this idea of creating a brand/image around England's golden boy hence put him in a position to score a lot of goals at the expense of us winning. There were players like Dembele, Eriksen, Jan etc that played a bigger role in our 'success' but they were always behind the scenes, sort of like Sonny is today.
That’s not the way I remember it
The Dippers were shite that night and were there for the taking and playing a clearly unfit Kane on the night says a lot about Poch and our medical team
Yes we were unlucky for the penalty but we had nearly 90 mins to rectify it
If I was Lucas I would have demanded a transfer that Summer and Levy should have sacked Poch there and then but no he dithered and we got Jose and now Nuno
What fucking next?
The Champo?
Listen to yourself man you're defending these decisions indirectly. What is your end point here? That we have bought players we needed, we spent some money so it shows we've got ambition? I really don't understand what you're defending.
We bought sissoko for 30 million. In a panic. Splashing big figures doesn't mean a player is worth that money so just because they throw some money at a player doesn't mean fuck all, they have to buy someone.
Ndombele and Lo Celso may have been on paper good but they were minimum poch would expect at a time the world was our oyster for picks and that's the issue.
I just named 5 players, 3 have gone on to prove themselves value for money. The other two have fallen completely flat. Do we just shrug our shoulders and say, ah well the club tried like your replies are insinuating.
And yes, I am implying we were treading water buying Ndombele and Lo Celso, as would it have been the case had Man City bought their calibre of player this season because that's the level we were at when we signed them two. We should've spent 200million in the squad that window atleast to get ready for the next round of players that will maintain that top 4 minimum. We stood still, buying a few players for more than we normally do doesn't change that fact.
I go back to pepe, he was 80 mil or something. Was he worth 80 mil? Not a chance, but could he be worth 80 mil in the future, perhaps.
Same story with Lo Celso and Ndombele, great potential on paper but the top clubs get these decisions correct and we fail time after time. We needed players to come in and make a difference straight away, instead we got good players not fantastic players we could've got.
Not replying to this anymore were going in circles. The squad needs to be ripped up completely that means every fucker over the age of 23 needs to be moved on and new blood bought in over the next few windows and we start completely fresh.
One of the worst performances I've ever seen from a club at the top level. Leeds spent too much money and failed, we struggle to spend or when we do seem to in the wrong places everytime we spend big.
The Bale money, only one player ended up being their true value and he wasnt the most expensive of the buys.
Went through it all last year mate, and posted so many times Kane’s goals to shots against the likes of Vardy and Calvert Lewin etc.
Last season in the PL it took Kane 55 more shots than Vardy to score 8 more goals than him.
Also played 300 more minutes.
If Vardy took 137 shots a season, he’d score more than Kane. I’m not sure how shooting 55 times more, but missing 47 of them makes you “clinical”
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just realised you're back muckaYou’re on that eternal yellow I see
He wasn't great last season though.
Jose built the team around Kane and Son so they were going to put up numbers at the expense of the rest of the team.
We have been better off without Kane over the last 3 seasons. Our record/results without him are undeniable.
Top scorer. Highest number of assists.
Jose built the team around Kane and Son because they are our only world class players ffs.
What is wrong with you?