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Ex-Spurs Player Harry Kane

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If the aim is to win a European cup then sadly I think anyone but PSG for the next few years is a struggle .. they won’t win it every year but they are big favourites for the foreseeable.

Team is just too complete, all still relatively young and if anything could get even better, with unlimited resources and an ability to constantly rest the team.
Validating my very point about HK being here...PSG are the counterexample to everthing most in this friggin thread have argued for years...

HK thread stans: "oh please don't sell HK...who do you replace him with"...
PSG: "No-fucking-body!!!! Because you don't replace dependent players in that manner...you fill out your team with talented hungry actual footballer at every other position."

They got rid of Mboopers while improving and have no need for someone like HK...because anyone can tap them in...especially if they are dependent on everyone else doing the job for them and bring no intrinsic value (which you tacitly admit with the service nonsense). And before you start with the "but, but, but...HK can play a pass too so put him in MF" I'd ask whether it would be better than PSG's current MF?
Olise, Diaz etc spent the game dribbling in to dead ends.
Perhaps they realized they had to do more because their striker was bringing nothing to the party under the circumstances. Making/convincing players to stick to their remit is a huge part of coaching...everyone can sense when they need to do more.
The one pass fed to him in the box he put top corner. He did his job as a striker, he scored 100% of his chances.
100M! For 100M I expect some value added in the big games...it's exactly why you pay the premium, a difference maker. He made no difference the other day...but he scored a goal with the one chance PROVIDED for him.
 
Perhaps they realized they had to do more because their striker was bringing nothing to the party under the circumstances. Making/convincing players to stick to their remit is a huge part of coaching...everyone can sense when they need to do more.

100M! For 100M I expect some value added in the big games...it's exactly why you pay the premium, a difference maker. He made no difference the other day...but he scored a goal with the one chance PROVIDED for him.

No because they’re brainless. Kane was making the runs. His teammates never found him. If you find Kane he scores. He is utterly ruthless.

He added 2 goals and an assist over the two legs. And he laid it on a plate for Olise who missed a sitter first leg. That’s value added no matter your silly agenda.

He is a difference maker - he just played for the losing team. The difference is his insane passing ability (created a goal, laid another on a plate) and his inhuman finishing ability. He showed both.

All chances are “provided” for strikers what is this shit? Benzema in the ballon d’or year had almost all his chances “created” for him. They’re strikers FFS.

You pay the money because nobody finds the corners like Kane, nobody passes like him, and nobody holds it up and draws fouls like him. That’s worth 100m. He is still one man in an eleven man sport, so obviously he doesn’t automatically win you the tie..

The man scored and assisted home and away vs Madrid and PSG. He is insane. He also scored a worldie the tie before that against Atalanta. You are criticising him on the basis of his teammates not doing enough.
 
No because they’re brainless. Kane was making the runs. His teammates never found him. If you find Kane he scores. He is utterly ruthless.
And what did the 100M Kane do to release his teammates? I mean, a player with a rep for underperformance in the big game should be doing something to alter that perception, right? Ohhhhhh, he was doing the same Kane stuff that contributed to his previous under-performances, right?
He added 2 goals and an assist over the two legs. And he laid it on a plate for Olise who missed a sitter first leg. That’s value added no matter your silly agenda.
A pen, a consolation goal in the dying embers, and an 'assist'...100m folks...AND NONE OF IT MADE A DIFFERENCE FOR A SUPPOSED 100m DIFFERENCE MAKING, WC, BD WINNER!
He is a difference maker - he just played for the losing team.
Oh shit...was too busy responding to your apology that I didn't even notice that you walked yourself into the teeth of my previous argument...well done, D!
The difference is his insane passing ability (created a goal, laid another on a plate) and his inhuman finishing ability. He showed both.
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All chances are “provided” for strikers what is this shit? Benzema in the ballon d’or year had almost all his chances “created” for him. They’re strikers FFS.
Some strikers have intrinsic threat...they are the great ones...others are compilers
You pay the money because nobody finds the corners like Kane, nobody passes like him, and nobody holds it up and draws fouls like him. That’s worth 100m.
Congrats Bayern...another Bundesliga for you...it was tight but 100M Kane got you there
The man scored and assisted home and away vs Madrid and PSG. He is insane. He also scored a worldie the tie before that against Atalanta. You are criticising him on the basis of his teammates not doing enough.
PSG went without...they had no desire for dead weight when the margins are so slim!
 
And what did the 100M Kane do to release his teammates? I mean, a player with a rep for underperformance in the big game should be doing something to alter that perception, right? Ohhhhhh, he was doing the same Kane stuff that contributed to his previous under-performances, right?

A pen, a consolation goal in the dying embers, and an 'assist'...100m folks...AND NONE OF IT MADE A DIFFERENCE FOR A SUPPOSED 100m DIFFERENCE MAKING, WC, BD WINNER!

Oh shit...was too busy responding to your apology that I didn't even notice that you walked yourself into the teeth of my previous argument...well done, D!

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Some strikers have intrinsic threat...they are the great ones...others are compilers

Congrats Bayern...another Bundesliga for you...it was tight but 100M Kane got you there

PSG went without...they had no desire for dead weight when the margins are so slim!

WTF are you on about?! He should’ve had two assists in the first leg, he had one because he put Olise in for a chance he would never miss himself! The second game there were no situations to play others in as the game was different after an early PSG goal, so he played more like a traditional CF.. it’s called a varied game.

It’s only a “consolation goal” because nobody else scored. What a stupid thing to say. And I like how “assist” is in inverted commas as if it wasn’t a gorgeous weighted over the top ball which a handful of players could pull off.

No he couldn’t. He couldn’t pass like Kane, and he couldn’t strike a ball like Kane. So silly.

“Intrinsic threat” being what? I’ve already told you his intrinsic threat. He is inhuman with both feet in and around the box. His passing is top 5 in the world.

Yeah PSG went without .. they only have several world class, expensive attackers and an extremely expensive midfield and defence. Give it a rest.
 
I’ll upset a good portion of the forum here by saying that Harry Kane will never be an all time great irrespective of stats as he does not posses the ability to turn and win his team a game in the biggest moments. People are going to whinge but if you watched Bale, Messi, Zidane, the Real Ronaldo, etc. what they could all do is take the ball in chaos and create that magic moment that changes a game.

Harry needs someone else to create the magic for him to finish. That means if you are ever truly under to cosh, fighting to stay in the game, he will never change it for you. Son could and did for us, so did Bale. Harry couldn’t.
 
I’ll upset a good portion of the forum here by saying that Harry Kane will never be an all time great irrespective of stats as he does not posses the ability to turn and win his team a game in the biggest moments. People are going to whinge but if you watched Bale, Messi, Zidane, the Real Ronaldo, etc. what they could all do is take the ball in chaos and create that magic moment that changes a game.

Harry needs someone else to create the magic for him to finish. That means if you are ever truly under to cosh, fighting to stay in the game, he will never change it for you. Son could and did for us, so did Bale. Harry couldn’t.

I don't think that's unfair because history remembers winners but we wouldn't be having this conversation had he moved to City in 2021
 
Maybe. I’m of the opinion he would be like Haaland though. A great goal scorer but unable to turn the biggest games.

Let's be real Kane does a far better job than Haaland in big matches, doubt he would have gone goalless in the CL knock outs when they won it like Haaland did for example.

His bigger error on his part is not leaving us early enough
 
Let's be real Kane does a far better job than Haaland in big matches, doubt he would have gone goalless in the CL knock outs when they won it like Haaland did for example.

His bigger error on his part is not leaving us early enough
Harry makes teams better. He doesn’t win you matches through individual brilliance. Wouldn’t have mattered if he went to City, Madrid or whoever. It will always be true.
 
We all recognise how good Kane is.

I don't believe Kane left to win the one-club Bundesliga but hey ho. Would 300-plus goals and a PL record that might never be beaten, and possible glory with us have meant more? Only Kane knows.

I don't think Son will ever be forgotten as a hero/legend of the club. Kane?

Kane is lethal but for 100 million pounds, that's surely the least expected

Hmmmmmm....
 
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Harry makes teams better. He doesn’t win you matches through individual brilliance. Wouldn’t have mattered if he went to City, Madrid or whoever. It will always be true.

Yeah I know but what I'm saying is the conversation would be entirely different if he picked up a couple of majors.

Players like Lewandowski isn't individually brilliant, he is just a pure goal scorer but the narrative around him is different because he won the CL and should have won the Balon D'or.

Many strikers in the past weren't individually brilliant either, Van Nisterlrooy, Inzaghi, Raul, Drogba, Villa, Eto'o weren't individually brilliant either but they've all won majors thus the narrative around them is totally different to Kane.

Also I need to challenge you on that individually brilliant notion anyway, he may not be able to run through the whole team or drop his shoulder and go past players but he has scored individually brilliant goals now and then that he has created himself.
 
I’ll upset a good portion of the forum here by saying that Harry Kane will never be an all time great irrespective of stats as he does not posses the ability to turn and win his team a game in the biggest moments. People are going to whinge but if you watched Bale, Messi, Zidane, the Real Ronaldo, etc. what they could all do is take the ball in chaos and create that magic moment that changes a game.

Harry needs someone else to create the magic for him to finish. That means if you are ever truly under to cosh, fighting to stay in the game, he will never change it for you. Son could and did for us, so did Bale. Harry couldn’t.
R9 never won a CL despite playing for Real, Barca and both Milan’s. He also capitulated in 98 in the World Cup final.

I consider him as possibly the greatest player ever. If Kane wins a major international tournament or CL he will go down as a great
 
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