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Ex-Spurs Player Harry Kane

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ElTel said:
They will not pay the 120-150 mill that Levy will want. Not a chance. What may happen is if Harry says City is the only team he wants to join and literally goes on strike like Berba and Bale did when they wanted to join Utd and Real respectively then City will be in the driving seat and might go in with a cash plus player deal eg 80 mill plus Ake

Also you are not taking into account that City under Pep don't need a main centre forward as they've proved this season. They are not that desperate to pay over the odds for a Kane or Haaland. Liverpool also proved recently that a team can be highly successful if the team shares the goal burden
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Don't kid yourself.
Since the 13/14 season these are their incoming player transfer totals in £millions;
104>92>187>193>285>70> 143>160.
I firmly believe Man City are more than capable of spending 120-150 mil on a single player.

As for not needing a striker...
Their goals scored the last 4 seasons in the league have been;
106 > 95 > 102 > 76 currently.

Whilst they may not have needed a main centre forward to win the league this season, that doesn't mean they haven't had a significant attacking decline.
This is something I'm sure Pep is aware of too.
 
The Outsider said:
There is a very recent comparison - Coutinho sold for 142m - that money transformed Liverpool into EPL and CL winners ... they didn't try and replace Coutinho they just bought the best defender VdV and the best striker Salah they could find ...
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Just to make sure the timeline is clear, they already had Salah in thermonuclear form, an emerging Mane, Jurgen Klopp, and Champions League football.

It was much more plausible that Liverpool were a tweak away from greatness, not to in any way denigrate how daring it was to take that offer for Coutinho who had been their talisman.
 
The Outsider said:
Not advocating that we sell Kane .... but

Kane is 28 this summer his value is 150m, as his contract runs down and his age goes up that will only decrease. So too maximise the value selling Kane now, at a time when he's coming off arguably his best ever season, makes good commercial sense ....

But selling Kane leaves a huge hole in the team, would 150m buy the 2/3 players needed to fill that gap?

There is a very recent comparison - Coutinho sold for 142m - that money transformed Liverpool into EPL and CL winners ... they didn't try and replace Coutinho they just bought the best defender VdV and the best striker Salah they could find ...

Not for one second saying sell Kane and buy a world class CB and a world class AM .... but like Liverpool would we actually be a better squad if we did?
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Hey, it's the cold rational way to look at it. Kane's importance to the club transcends your usual 'best player' narrative, but if you put that aside then there is an obvious argument to be made about why this summer is the time he'd get that mega move.

In fact it works both ways: Kane (in addition to losing faith in the THFC project) will know 28 or so is the age a striker either goes to a mega club or doesn't, while Levy will know that if you're forced to sell a jewel like him there won't be a point at which his value is higher. Additionally Kane hasn't been blessed with the best injury luck and it won't escape him that this season has gone very well in terms of avoiding injury but it's possible at any moment that he could get some transfer-killing setback.
 
Thin Lilywhite Duke said:
In fact it works both ways: Kane (in addition to losing faith in the THFC project) will know 28 or so is the age a striker either goes to a mega club or doesn't, while Levy will know that if you're forced to sell a jewel like him there won't be a point at which his value is higher.
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The trouble is, to leave the ENIC project with any credibility at all, either for their own reign or even to maintain the club's value as an asset, Kane would have to be replaced not just with quality on the pitch, but with star quality which is expensive and inefficient.

Unless of course there is a fire sale of talent from the continent this summer, in which case suddenly finding 120M in your pocket is a somewhat intriguing scenario.

As I said at the top, this thing is incredibly multifaceted. And we have a chairman who I completely trust to see the strategic landscape and don't trust whatsoever to properly navigate that landscape

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FightingIllini said:
As I said at the top, this thing is incredibly multifaceted. And we have a chairman who I completely trust to see the strategic landscape and don't trust whatsoever to properly navigate that landscape
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It's crossed my mind that these rumblings of getting a proper DoF in (they heated up after sacking Mourinho too if I recall correctly) may be related to Levy knowing that a Kane sale would be on the cards either this summer or next with a rebuild to follow. If he has the self awareness to know he's the wrong guy to be holding a cheque for 150m and a fax machine, I'll give him some kudos.
 
How can anyone be upset with Kane wanting to go? He’s given the club everything and been a consummate professional his entire time here. Eventually you get tired being a bridesmaid - and that’s on Levy/ENIC.

Levy should stick around to negotiate us the highest possible fee but as soon as the ink has dried on the sale he needs to resign. His position at the club is untenable. Couldn’t win anything with this golden generation, time to step aside and let someone else have a crack at it.
 
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Thin Lilywhite Duke said:
Transfer merry go rounds are a weird thing: a bit of me wonders if there's been some behind the scenes movement regarding a Haaland to Real Madrid transfer - something that would make Man City come out of the woodwork and more aggressively pursue Kane.
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IF Zidane stays then Madrid would be looking at Mbappe. If he goes then I would expect Haaland to be their prime target.

Most teams would likely see Haaland as the better investment but his father and Raiola are not helping his cause imo.
 
FightingIllini said:
Just to make sure the timeline is clear, they already had Salah in thermonuclear form, an emerging Mane, Jurgen Klopp, and Champions League football.

It was much more plausible that Liverpool were a tweak away from greatness, not to in any way denigrate how daring it was to take that offer for Coutinho who had been their talisman.
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Did they not have 7 of their Champions League final winning line up from the start of the season where Coutinho left in the January?

People talk like the sale of Coutinho won them the Premier & Champions Leagues.
A lot of their success on the field was a result of their full backs with VVD between them.
Their full backs had a drop in form, the CB is injured, then suddenly they are bang average and these lauded forwards are not returning what they had previously.
Their full backs come back to a bit of form late in the season, and magically Liverpool are winning again.

Comparable to our situation with Walker, Toby, Jan, Rose - playing with full backs up front pressing.
 
Mampi said:
Did they not have 7 of their Champions League final winning line up from the start of the season where Coutinho left in the January?

People talk like the sale of Coutinho won them the Premier & Champions Leagues.
A lot of their success on the field was a result of their full backs with VVD between them.
Their full backs had a drop in form, the CB is injured, then suddenly they are bang average and these lauded forwards are not returning what they had previously.
Their full backs come back to a bit of form late in the season, and magically Liverpool are winning again.

Comparable to our situation with Walker, Toby, Jan, Rose - playing with full backs up front pressing.
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And the other thing to note is the Barcelona offer for Coutinho would be like someone offering 200M for Kane. Great as he was it was plainly over the odds.

That's why Liverpool did it, I think.
 
El Magnifico said:
IF Zidane stays then Madrid would be looking at Mbappe. If he goes then I would expect Haaland to be their prime target.

Most teams would likely see Haaland as the better investment but his father and Raiola are not helping his cause imo.
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Definitely agree and in Man City's case you'd have thought him being the son of a former player gives them an extra something to him joining. I get no impression they'd want to entertain Raiola's extortionate tactics though which could well be why they'd come knocking on our door for Harry.
 
The Outsider said:
Not advocating that we sell Kane .... but

Kane is 28 this summer his value is 150m, as his contract runs down and his age goes up that will only decrease. So too maximise the value selling Kane now, at a time when he's coming off arguably his best ever season, makes good commercial sense ....

But selling Kane leaves a huge hole in the team, would 150m buy the 2/3 players needed to fill that gap?

There is a very recent comparison - Coutinho sold for 142m - that money transformed Liverpool into EPL and CL winners ... they didn't try and replace Coutinho they just bought the best defender VdV and the best striker Salah they could find ...

Not for one second saying sell Kane and buy a world class CB and a world class AM .... but like Liverpool would we actually be a better squad if we did?
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Please tell me who the next VVD and Salah are?

Not every team can get that lucky and buy two of the best players in the world in their positions at the same time. Do you really trust Hitchen to deliver?

It's far far more likely we piss the money away on 5 players, 3 of which flop, 1 is half decent and one turns out good.

It could be a good opportunity for a rebuild in the right hands but not in the hands of the same team that has signed Janssen, N'Koudou, Sessengon, Doherty, Sissoko and Sanchez in recent times.
 
Thin Lilywhite Duke said:
Definitely agree and in Man City's case you'd have thought him being the son of a former player gives them an extra something to him joining. I get no impression they'd want to entertain Raiola's extortionate tactics though which could well be why they'd come knocking on our door for Harry.
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Maybe they will get Kane on a 5 year deal, then end up loaning him back to us when he's 31 for 50% of his salary.

He's almost 28, would probably be on about £20 mil per season over 4-5 years before bonuses, agent fee, signing on fee, transfer fee.

All in, Kane could cost them £250 mil for 150 goals with 0 value at the end of his contract.

Haaland could cost a similar amount, but would still only be 26 at the end of a 5 year contract! By then the economy will be different. He could be a player they sell for a profit, or keep on as he moves towards his prime years.

Nothing about the Kane transfer makes sense except to pressure Haaland, or if Haaland simply doesn't fancy joining those cheats.
 
Maureen said:
Jose already has thanks to levy’s dumb arse appointment. That decision has taken us back to 2008. It’s going to cost us big time with Kane being the start. Just imagine if we got a half decent modern coach to replace poch and build on his work? Instead we got a dinasour who been sacked in his 2 previous jobs, with 2nd tine from Chelski, yet levy thinks in his infinite wisdom that he is right for us. That day was the start of the slide down fast. Basically 18 months wasted for all the players and club as Jose left a mess with development. His mission is accomplished with Kane going.

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Your post resumes the level of fake news and "narratives" in today´s society. According to you, signing Jose is somehow the reason for Kane wanting to leave the club - now, after Jose´s gone; not when he was signed. Facts don´t matter. You just choose what you want to believe, despite of them.

It´s the opposite, obviously. Tottenham fired Jose (five days before a final) and showed lack of ambition; it showed that winning titles is not the main priority - it´s irrelevant what you think about Jose and his tenure as Spurs manager; Levy could have fired him one day after the final.

I also said - and again, the evidences are many - that Kane and Jose enjoyed a great relationship. Just like Sonny and Jose, Hojbjerg and Jose, Lloris and Jose... But Kane, especially, is enjoying the best season of his life.

You don´t think his form has any relation with Jose? Okay. You don´t like Jose? Okay.

Harry Kane did.
 
I’m the strongest advocate of Kane staying by the way and not selling to any direct rival, but say City offered 100 mil, plus Jesus and Ake. Would you take that ? Just curious. Literally just playing silly season here but be interested to see opinions
 
Kaner Owns Woolwich said:
How can anyone be upset with Kane wanting to go? He’s given the club everything and been a consummate professional his entire time here. Eventually you get tired being a bridesmaid - and that’s on Levy/ENIC.
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I can't see how anyone doesn't recognize different possible responses here. Fair enough, you're not upset that he wants to go. Fine.

But I love Spurs. I loved Spurs before Kane came along, and I'll love them after. It'd be one thing if he was pushing for a move to Europe. But by all accounts, he wants to stay in the PL. Which is effectively saying: "I've given my all to trying to win with this club, but we weren't able to do it, so in the remaining years I have left, I want to give my all instead to a different club whose goal is (among other things) to ensure that my long-time club doesn't win." My view is: fuck that. Sorry.

And if someone gets tired of being a bridesmaid, fine. So they go off, to be a mercenary on a team of mercenaries, to hold up a trophy in front of fans who don't give a shit about you. That's one path. Another path is to stick with the club that's in your blood, in front of fans who worship you, who will build statues for you and sing your name, and if you don't win a trophy, there's a nobility to the effort the other mercenary path can never achieve. I admire that second path a hell of a lot more.
 
The degree of uncertainty around the club at the moment is quite mind-boggling to comprehend.

Someone's going to be turning out in white Nike tops with a red AIA on them at the big silver thing in N17 to play football, that much we know.

What's the place called, who are the players, what competition are they in, are there any fans there, who runs the club, all in a remarkable state of flux.
 
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