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Ex-Spurs Player Harry Kane

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Bullshit..... Fundamentally, they are a cancer to the modern game.

It's the sports-washing of a scandalous regime and it has corrupted our game in multiple ways..... They have been caught cheating twice and are currently under further investigation.

That's not jealousy talking; it's a love of the game and common decency.
Mate, you allow people to do what they want and you know what....some take that to the nth degree.

No point slating City and their owners because they are doing what they are being allowed to do.

Bemoan the Premier league or UEFA/FIFA for being so complicit, and blame players who can show their own moral compass, but rarely do so and when they try, they are accused of lacking ambition.

The sad inescapable truth for many of us is that if a mega-rich benefactor came in and spent stupid money many would justify it.
 
Harry will stay, he will break Greaves record and will win trophies.
Cannot be more optimistic than that!
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The tea lady agrees!
 
Fair points but I do recall this time four years ago Spurs were on the up and up but since then things have gone somewhat pear shaped. Poch knew a rebuild was necessary and made that plain but it cost him his job. Levy brought in the “Stale one” to replace him and atrophy set in... why then would a world class player not have second thoughts when every supporter in the country both of Spurs and every other club have witnessed this diabolical Daniel Levy/ENIC catastrophic implosion or would you call it something else?
Nothing wrong with him having second thoughts, he has reason in truth.

However, if he wants out then man up and put in a transfer request. We can then advise the World that we have, reluctantly, put Kane up for sale, at his request, but the price is £ 160M plus, or whatever the club decides is his value, citing that he's the best striker in the World with 3 years left on his contract. Get it out in the open so the World can see it.

Kane has the same superstar status as the likes of Neymar, Mbappe, etc. He's a level up from the likes of Griezeman, Coutinho et Al, and they went for North of £120M, so his price should reflect that.
 
True, buty unless City offers the right amount of money Kane is in the bigger losing situation than Levy.

If he refuses to show up to training or games, he won't get paid and can't play anywhere else. If he ends up sticking around and puts in half the work and his performances drop off a cliff, we lose value as a club, but no club is going to come running after a bad season or two. He's already risking it right now, but he loses the support of the fans and becomes a pariah within and outside of the club.

However people feel about Levy, he and the club have almost all the leverage in this situation. IF the reports about Grealish are true and City are looking to spend 100 million for him, then Harry is worth at least 125. Probably closer to 150.

Yes--his age and injury history are factors here. A 23-year-old superstar has a major falling out and a season is basically lost, top clubs will still come in. But at 28 and with glass ankles, Kane is apt to be evaluated differently after a lost season. We all lose then, but especially him.
 
They clearly aren't going to pay £160m, we clearly aren't going to accept anything less. The only chance this happens is cash plus players but who there would want to come and then you add the wage issue. Initially i didnt want player exchanges but If and its a big if we could get Bernardo Silva and Laporte and enough cash for Vlahovic and say Ings (around £70m) you'd have to say that leaves us as a much better team, especually if we get Romero and Tomiyasu done in the meantime.
 
Methinks someone needs to look up the definition of "contradict". And when they are done with that (it's sad that I have to spell this out AND bring up this example as if it is novel) they should also look at Liverpool's example and results after Coutinho. Many more examples in the world of non-English sports as well. Shame you desire Spurs to be a one man team forever and that it is the only definition of ambition you and other legacy fans hold.


We should get a fee in line with what someone is willing to pay ie their ascribed value of a 28yo player with significant hx of leg injuries/time spent on the sidelines and their position as the only bidder/interested party. You know Guids, what the market will bear. Can't imagine Harry not showing up to training because DL has let this go so long would improve any offer. But I actually think it was done some time ago just like the Walker move.


Perhaps you needed to tell others on this board this but I've been leading this choir for some decent amount of time my friend.


Then you never really loved the player but rather what he did for your club. Fair enough then. good of your to claim it though. Just make sure not to sing praises of love and glory when the next player does something good in your estimation. Just say "all praises to Daniel Levy and ENIC" and be done with it. I know a guy named Joan that might wanna have a word though.

Rather see City win than most others. Were you celebrating with Chelsea instead this summer? City are here to stay and their accomplishments can easily be rationalized as bought...plus, Pep.


Harry didn't write that song and didn't cultivate the idea in supporter's minds. And he's been the model professional. He shouldn't need to while away his career in the Conference League to have your support you heartless bastard*. Perhaps if your boy DL hadn't run this club into the ground trying to save every penny when it was clear we needed investment he might still be here til the end. Just remember, your boy DL stood pat in 2018, got rid of the best manager we've had in ENIC's time here, and brought in the Dino for good measure. This ain't on Harry and he shouldn't have to suffer the caprice of your displeasure. You heartless bastard.


*jokes, of course.
Don't build a strawman around my posts, please.

He's a world-class player, one of the best strikers in the world that's under contract with us with THREE years remaining on it. This means if a club wants to buy him they will have to pay an appropriate fee. Spurs are under no pressure to sell, the pressure is on the buying club, either they do or don't put in an appropriate bid that reflects the above position around him.

DL hasn't let this go on too long. If there was a "gentleman's agreement" made between him and Kane what do you think that was? DL: "we will sell you, Harry, for 60% of what your value is"!??! It's City that are letting this go on too long, they haven't offered enough money. If they value Grealish at £100m then Kane is worth substantially more than that, every metric in the book will support this. City doesn't need to get this done quickly, they've just won with the League without a CF, with a part-time striker with worse stats than Vinicius!!

I would love to buy something from you, do you own a house? If you do I'm only going to offer you 60% of its value and I expect you to sell it to me immediately. Once I've bought it from you, you are welcome to buy it from me back but I would want double the amount because I am ambitious and I'm trying to raise money so that I can reinvest it, I know will be sympathetic in what I am trying to do here, so cheers for all your help, it's much appreciated for you not trying to get in my way of being ambitious by allowing me to get one over you.

I only support Spurs. I don't "support" players. I like and/or don't like players, I arrive at who I like and don't like by how they played, made me feel watching them and how they conducted themselves whilst at my Club. I didn't, therefore, welcome Bale back as an example, I thought he acted like a dick when he left (I also thought that he wasn't a good fit stylistically for how I want Spurs to play). A recent example of another player that recently left that I like is Eriksen, he was straight with the club on wanting to leave, he didn't sign a new contract (unlike Kane), he didn't refuse to turn up to training, was always available to play and improved the team's performance when he did play (off the bench), stated openly he wouldn't join another PL rival.

Kane's entire brand is built around the clean living, great Dad, great husband, loyal boyhood Spurs fan. This brand is at odds with him pushing the stories in the press at the end of last season and him now not turning up at the training ground. Just look at Grealish vs Kane right now.

If Kane is sold for an appropriate fee (as per above) then we can reinvest this money well it will be good for us (if invested wisely). I need to remind you that the Coutinho sale went on for over a season. I'd argue all day that he's NOT a "Klopp type" player, by that he's not an aggressive counter-presser, I think they played that sale brilliantly and marketed him out as a Barca Club type player whilst also saying he's not for sale to push the price up, whilst actually not wanting him as he's not a typical "Klopp player" (at that time Eriksen's numbers were far superior to that of Coutinho in almost every metric but the dumbest Club on the planet, Barca, overpaid just as they did for almost every player they've bought for the last 7yrs or so).

Will Kane be worth less than £100m next season with two years left on his contract? No. So, spend the next +12 months selling him, more importantly giving us time to rebuild the squad with targets properly scouted and profiled and agreed on by a management team that's had longer than 2 weeks working together.

Like I said I'm comfortable with Kane going but
1. Only for a fee that benefits Tottenham, not that benefits a rival. If it's to a rival then we fuck them and fuck them hard, that means sell him to City (if they want him) for £30m more than we can get to say from PSG). But ultimately, if Kane wants to leave then sure mate, we've Inter or Juve will take you so you can get the scudetto you've always dreamed of.
2. Because I suspect we are playing a style of football (slow) to fit him in, rather than him play a style we want because he can't anymore.
3. I will not be cheering him on at City, never in a month of Sunday's. I would want him to fail there.
 
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They clearly aren't going to pay £160m, we clearly aren't going to accept anything less. The only chance this happens is cash plus players but who there would want to come and then you add the wage issue. Initially i didnt want player exchanges but If and its a big if we could get Bernardo Silva and Laporte and enough cash for Vlahovic and say Ings (around £70m) you'd have to say that leaves us as a much better team, especually if we get Romero and Tomiyasu done in the meantime.

I mostly agree with this (especially the player exchange part), but I differ on that first sentence: I actually think there's room for an agreement in the 135-140 range that I could imagine both clubs grudgingly accepting.
 
Modric wasn't desperate to go though, even if he did want the move to Chelsea. Had that been Madrid in that moment in time he would have done what Kane is doing. I really don't get this comparison between the two.
Modric was absolutely desperate to go to Chelsea!! That summer was all about Modric and his upset tantrums, don't you remember the "I don't want to play for the chicken badge " jokes. He claimed he had a gentleman's agreement with Levy to leave, it was carnage every day in the press.

Anyway here is a bit of a throwback to the lighter side of those shenanigans

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Well the one thing it might do is convince decent strikers to come, if we have the money to buy them. Not Ings please.
Do you think holding on to Harry against his will makes it more likely other top strikers will come of less likely? Especially considering the fact that the club has failed to provide adequate cover at striker for years because of penny-pinching.
 
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