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Ex-Spurs Player Harry Kane

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The Outsider said:
You keep moving the goalposts to make an incorrect point - Kane has not got "worse" since 2018 if you look at all the statistics for a striker across the board, not just select the one that make a Spurs player look bad. Spurs have created very little against the 'biggest teams' in the last two years - is that all on Kane? did any striker from outside the top six score a hatful against the 'biggest teams'?

I can pick on one skill set with Mo Salah and say he's utter shit because he never scores with his head - but that would also be obviously total bollocks.

Kane only scores from close range? firstly that's a lie Kane is in the top ten for EPL goals from outside the box, but even if it were true so what? being in the right place at the right time is a good thing not a failure. Greaves, Henry, Aguero, Fowler were they all no good because they scored most of their goals from inside the box?
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No, you’ve joined a debate after ten weeks and tried to decide what it’s about

Kane used to score and play well against big and small teams regularly

Kane now only scores against small teams regularly and often scores with playing particularly well

Regression.
Simple as that
 
NDomBadBoy said:
I didn’t know being a true Spurs fan meant requiring Kane to be exempt from criticism and creating false narratives that makes him look good at the expense of the club/other players.
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No false narrative here. I dont think anyone criticised any other spurs player here. I think everyone agrees son is class. But hes also streaky at times. And in those finals we talk about he didnt exactly set the world alight. Like all the players 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
Everyone agrees kane hasnt played well at times against bigger teams but to rubbish what hes done in last 4 year is a bit ridiculous.
And in the 4 year hes played 2 summer tournaments and had a years worth of injuries
 
sammyspurs said:
No, you’ve joined a debate after ten weeks and tried to decide what it’s about

Kane used to score and play well against big and small teams regularly

Kane now only scores against small teams regularly and often scores with playing particularly well
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Only if you're a moron who thinks that only goals scored is the measure of a good striker - are you a moron Sammy or would you consider that assists actually matter as well?

You do know that Kane's number of assists has gone up against the big four since 2018 - you didn't ignore that data surely?
 
The Outsider said:
Only if you're a moron who thinks that only goals scored is the measure of a good striker - are you a moron Sammy or would you consider that assists actually matter as well?

You do know that Kane's number of assists has gone up against the big four since 2018 - you didn't ignore that data surely?
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Funny because I said “scored and played well”

Assists has been done to death. You’re late again.

Kane has averaged 2-4 assists every season.
He assisted 11 times between august and November last season and has 4 in the 35 games since

Keep up
 
The Outsider said:
So in your limited stats Kane and Son scored 16 goals between then against your "Big 4" , look further and you will find Kane providing 5 goals and 8 assists ... yet you ignore the assists and decide that based on goals alone he's no good against your Big 4.

Could you make a worse assumption? you do know that goals AND assists are what makes a great striker? you did know that right?

Your supposed Flat Track Bully has the most assists against the top four - but that doesn't count with you, you couldn't make that shit up.
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Hes also a couple of games away from scoring the most away goals in premier league in by far the shortest length of time. But that doesnt count because its notoriously easy to score away from home in premier league outside of anfield, stamford bridge, etihad, old trafford.
 
NDomBadBoy said:
No, I think there’s a large percentage of the fanbase that’s turned on Kane and seeing him for what he is. You’re just in denial, still thinking a hat trick against a Mura and Tacos is the same thing as scoring against City or Liverpool. Your love for Kane is clouding your judgement. Just like how your judgement is clouded regarding the elections.
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Stupid man

If you are going to rant, shine a light on his lack of conditioning not his lack of ability. The former concerns me, he reminds me of late 20’s Rooney in that respect at the moment. I’m not convinced he’s looking after himself that well, or training to his maximal potential and this has been the case since Poch left

I think he’s bought into Jose’s 15 year outdated philosophy to training / matches eg take it easy, recover in training and focus on matches. It’s the opposite of Klopp, Pep and Poch’s approach
 
Zomb said:
Stupid man

If you are going to rant, shine a light on his lack of conditioning not his lack of ability. The former concerns me, he reminds me of late 20’s Rooney in that respect at the moment. I’m not convinced he’s looking after himself that well, or training to his maximal potential and this has been the case since Poch left

I think he’s bought into Jose’s 15 year outdated philosophy to training / matches eg take it easy, recover in training and focus on matches. It’s the opposite of Klopp, Pep and Poch’s approach
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Don't bite, mate - he's a gooner
 
Another point - I am pro ‘dropping him’ for a couple of games (one being a Thursday game), giving him two rest / recovery days and then a hard training block of ten days before the following EPL game so essentially a two week break. I would do this with Son at points too….

Jose style of flogging players to death is archaic. We can only do this pre Xmas really and whilst the squad is fully fit. Explain this to the press; it’s not a rest, it’s recovery then a periodised block or strength air fitness plus mental recovery. Kane is not a Salah that is supremely fit natuerally, it has to be cultivated
 
NDomBadBoy said:
No, I think there’s a large percentage of the fanbase that’s turned on Kane and seeing him for what he is. You’re just in denial, still thinking a hat trick against a Mura and Tacos is the same thing as scoring against City or Liverpool. Your love for Kane is clouding your judgement. Just like how your judgement is clouded regarding the elections.
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Everything you say re Kane is soooooooooo ironic giving your bizarre love affair with Ndombele.

Be quiet.
 
ArcspacE said:
And a gooner to match

No Spurs fan would spout such bile about our best player in a generation
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Yep. I think it's perfectly ok to be pissed off with Kane over the summer stuff, and to not view him in the same regard as previously. I also think it's obviously fair to constructively criticise his poor form.

BUT there's a difference between that and the constant trolling that Ndombumbum keeps spouting - a big difference. By god its tedious!
 
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