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Ex-Spurs Player Harry Kane
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Our biggest problem was conceding goals, not scoring them.
Sorting out the defence would save much more points than would be lost by selling Kane
I think if he's willing to go, I'd sell for that sort of money to Madrid. He's 30 and weve had 9 seasons and 280 goals. I suspect he'll play well in his mid-thirties but it's a risk. Alternatively, if we get 10 seasons and he leaves to a PL club at 31, we can't pretend it is a Sol situation either.
But, does he not want the EPL record? If we raise his wages by 50%, he might sign a new contract, with the bonus being he does not have to move his whole family. I would prefer he go abroad rather than to United though.
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He does but he wants to win things.
If he wins a league, that can't be taken away. If his only achievement is top EPL scorer, it can be lost and a 70 year old Kane could have absolutely nothing to show for an incredible career.
How can a team fail a player? I don't understand this. No one player is bigger than the club. True, the management has completely failed the team and us, the fans but how have they failed just one player? It's nonsense imo
The team existed before HK and will continue after.
I'm not belittling his phenomenal achievements but some people think that without him, we've no chance of winning anything. I disagree.
We should be sorting out the back, not worrying about the front.
Eh “absolutely nothing to show” is kind of a silly way of looking at life. He will have all those memories, relationships, captaining England, fans who will consider him a legend forever, generational wealth, etc. A title doesn’t change any of that either way. Now if he wants to compete at the highest level and feels like Tottenham is not matching him in that way I can’t blame him. But to have something to show is about other people…hence the “show.” I don’t think a 70 year old Kane is sitting around worrying about what other people think of him. So much of this is a total projection by fans and pundits with nothing better to do. 70 year old Kane will probably be enjoying life with his million grandkids.
For me, all this 'Kane needs to leave to win a trophy' is absolute bollocks. It's a media and social media narrative that has been purely centred around Harry Kane.
Where is the clamour for Son to leave to win a trophy? He deserves one just as much but I don't see the absolute bullshit circus around him.
Whether Kane does win a trophy or doesn't, he'll still be respected by me and I'm sure many other Spurs fans in the future.
Where is the clamour for Son to leave to win a trophy? He deserves one just as much but I don't see the absolute bullshit circus around him.
Whether Kane does win a trophy or doesn't, he'll still be respected by me and I'm sure many other Spurs fans in the future.
I think it kind of goes without saying that he won one with that kind of record.
With Kane having not, it’s much more unusual. It’s a pub quiz question type thing.
So with Shearer it doesn’t really need to be said but with Kane if he were to get the record, I bet it would always follow.
‘That’s right, Son now not far behind Kane’s top premier league goal scorer’s record but interestingly, he got the record having never won a trophy at Spurs. But that was when Levy still had the reigns. Dark times.’
So why do you think this 'social media narrative' is centred around Kane and not Son?
Yes. As long as we get an adequate replacement in attack , improving our defense will more than make up for the loss of Kane.
My main thinking would be because he's English, our best player, creates the most attention from fans and is key to 'click bait' online.
Son has never, even before he signed his new contract been linked away from the club or mentioned about not winning a trophy. He's been arguably just as brilliant as what Kane has been. If you didn't have Son would you get the same Harry Kane? I can think of numerous games where Son has stepped up when Kane hasn't played.
Hugo Lloris is going to leave this club having been a great player for us without winning a trophy. Does he not deserve to have won one?
You don't just get given a trophy, you have to earn it.
I'd not look at it this way. This way bound to fail. First thing fix the defence. Reliable class Keeper, mobile Centerbacks, creative midfield options and pace out wide that's how you aggregate the loss of Kane.
It's a tricky one to measure; indeed it's the reason I hate those 'points with/without *insert player here*' figures as it's hardly like you'd play with ten men without them (I like the alternative you have there with dropping an 'average' striker into the mix instead).
I think you touch on a lot of fair points, a lot of which I share. Kane is a clinical beast but part of the way this season has panned out has been a team devoid of ideas eventually getting it up to him and Harry doing what he does best. Also some great passing from Kane to set us on the counter.
Kane would clean up in a Man City or a Real Madrid, but I'm not so certain about a Postecoglou Spurs side where we want our striker to be mobile and pressing.
TL;DR: I love Harry, but think we could actually play better overall as a team if we have a clear attacking plan and aren't relying on one guy to dig us out of trouble.
I don't dispute it. But all the players we sign will be punts and 2nd or 3rd choices. Because it's what we almost always do.
There's two ways of looking at it...
The team who wins the League or a cup technically has it taken away the following season (unless they win it again!) Yes, it's in the record books, but so is an individual goalscoring record, until it is broken.
And ANY individual has to share a Title/Cup with his teammates...
As it is, Shearer has held the Top Goalscorer record for HOW many years....? No one has come close except for Rooney & Kane....
Greaves was Tottenham"s record goalscorer for 53 YEARS! Kane has now beaten that.
...his achievement will remain in place for potentially decades...
Unless Haaland scores 200+ goals in the next 2 seasons, 'cos he sure as shit ain't hanging around the PL for a decade!!
Individual awards are just as cherished, if not more so because they are so rare!
Kane clearly has his eye on such a personal achievement... whether we win something along the way doesn't take away from what an incredible feat it is to even come close to Shearer... let alone beat Jimmy Greaves' record for Spurs.
Let's not diminish that, shall we?
He'll either revel in being the main man , or it'll be a total disaster.... Nothing in between!
With Hugo leaving, perhaps Kane would like to be the club captain for this season, just in case....
