You could gather from my post that I thought he did well yesterday. I'd probably say he was our motm myself. In many games, though, he's quite far off.
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Player Heung-Min Son (손흥민)
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You could gather from my post that I thought he did well yesterday. I'd probably say he was our motm myself. In many games, though, he's quite far off.
Was very active, but also very wasteful. I'm surprised with the MOTM rating to be honest.
He's much better than Chadli, but I totally agree about him being inconstant. He will have a drop in form and this thread will be all "Son is shit, get rid" etc.
The reality is that he is a very talented player. A young player. He will improve with the right training, both in ability and consistency. He will have more drops in form yet though.
Most people are acknowledging that he his frustrating and wasteful, but are saying they will take that because he is also winning us games and creating havoc up front for us.
He doesnt fit well with a Poch team, yet Poch signed him and continues to pick him.
As for the highlights comment, Id say 99% of the people posting here have seen every game in its entirety
This makes no sense. His lack of a decisive pass takes him from world class to basically Andros Townsend? Ridiculous.
Thought he was excellent yesterday, and comfortably MOTM. This might sound somewhat far fetched, but I saw shades of CR7. Needs to improve decision making as many have already said.
It's the brainless part of him that I worry about - it's like something I've seen us fail to advance players with.
Like against Sunderland, he kept pratting about instead of playing logical passes or keeping to tactics. It's that sort of arrogance I guess that I worry about.
MAN OF THE MATCH - Heung-Min Son (Tottenham)
Spurs were frustrated for a long time but kept going and nobody embodied that more than Son. Having set up the best chance of first half for Kane to squander, he persevered and was eventually rewarded when he won the penalty. He looked Tottenham’s most dangerous player throughout and ended up being the difference-maker not for the first time this season.
Tottenham keep title dream alive with Middlesbrough win
Spurs were frustrated for a long time but kept going and nobody embodied that more than Son. Having set up the best chance of first half for Kane to squander, he persevered and was eventually rewarded when he won the penalty. He looked Tottenham’s most dangerous player throughout and ended up being the difference-maker not for the first time this season.
Tottenham keep title dream alive with Middlesbrough win
Son squandered the best chance of that first half, not Kane. Otherwise I agree with that assessment. Very good performance on the back of very poor one away at Sunderland.
Son can be wasteful but the point is he keeps going.
Other player might take a shot, hit it in the stands, and just want to pass the ball sideways for the rest of the match.
Tenacity and a refusal to be embarrassed. The qualities of a great Pick Up Artist aswell, I'm told!
Other player might take a shot, hit it in the stands, and just want to pass the ball sideways for the rest of the match.
Tenacity and a refusal to be embarrassed. The qualities of a great Pick Up Artist aswell, I'm told!
What are u confused about? He's exciting and frustrating in equal measure. Was again yesterday.
Caused them a lot of problems but also had 4 or 5 moments where he completely wasted good attacking opportunities.
His decision making is the different between him being a decent play and a top class one. Has all the ability required.
Did you actually read his post? Ironically your response suggests you only read the highlights of that too.
If Son's decision-making skill was so good and he scores all the time, he'd be playing for Real Madrid.
Calm yourselves and imagine how yesterday's match would've been played without him. Or the matches against Wycombe, Stoke, Middlesbrough (in September), Man City, CSKA Moscow, West Ham, and more.
Obviously, he has been an essential part of this season's run.
Calm yourselves and imagine how yesterday's match would've been played without him. Or the matches against Wycombe, Stoke, Middlesbrough (in September), Man City, CSKA Moscow, West Ham, and more.
Obviously, he has been an essential part of this season's run.
I'm assuming a few people missed moments like when he could have crossed, but chose to smash in into row Z, with the direction that meant it was closer to the corner flag than the goal.
As an observer, I'd be interested to see how his team play compares to his goal scoring. He's showing a lot of the bad attributes that Townsend had, but is perhaps getting plaudits for the selfish play that makes a player appear to be performing better as an individual, as opposed to as a part of a team.
As an observer, I'd be interested to see how his team play compares to his goal scoring. He's showing a lot of the bad attributes that Townsend had, but is perhaps getting plaudits for the selfish play that makes a player appear to be performing better as an individual, as opposed to as a part of a team.
I guess a better question is- have we won or lost points with him at a needed clip to achieve our objectives?
I can't really think of a time this season he cost us a whole 3 points except maybe our first match against chelsea when he (kind of) failed to track back on Moses. Even then, I guess you could say it was only 1 point lost since a draw would have been an excellent result otherwise.
How many times then has he won us points with a leveling or go-ahead strike or penalty won? Many, many times this season- has to be at least 10 points worth. I think he is definitely good enough for us.
Getting dropped too often I think is causing him to overplay sometimes- I think if he felt more secure with his starting XI place he would play with a bit more composure and selflessness.
I'm hoping he can do just that and continue to be a big part of our success as we look towards the run-in.
I can't really think of a time this season he cost us a whole 3 points except maybe our first match against chelsea when he (kind of) failed to track back on Moses. Even then, I guess you could say it was only 1 point lost since a draw would have been an excellent result otherwise.
How many times then has he won us points with a leveling or go-ahead strike or penalty won? Many, many times this season- has to be at least 10 points worth. I think he is definitely good enough for us.
Getting dropped too often I think is causing him to overplay sometimes- I think if he felt more secure with his starting XI place he would play with a bit more composure and selflessness.
I'm hoping he can do just that and continue to be a big part of our success as we look towards the run-in.
That is an interesting point. I also would be interested to see such comparison.
Son is not normally a playmaker. Lately he has been pretty selfish in the box or during counter-attacks. That being said, his left crosses along with one-two passes have been improving.
Some good points there. Agree with most of it. Not sure ur logic on the points he's won/lost us is all that sound though.
As an attacker in his position it'd be fairer to compare games he's scored/assisted in and we've won vs those he's wasted chances and we've lost/drawn.
(Not saying he wouldn't come out on top in that comparison. Just think it'd be a more relevant measure)
Not so much arrogance but immaturity and/or over enthusiasm
I didn't rate him a while ago but he's definitely got something and defenders must get fed up of him constantly coming at them because he just doesn't let up!
Next season he could be amazing
Fair enough- I agree my methods of assessment are incomplete, but I'm fairly certain that even by your standards we would find he positively contributed more than not. Plus, as we are accomplishing our season objectives presently, I think we would have to say he has contributed on a high enough level to not be considered to be detracting from our overall play. It's possible we could get another player who would play better than him in his position, but we haven't done so, and it would be difficult to do so. I'd rather we not even think about selling him at all unless we've already signed a more capable replacement.