A Hollywood casting director could not do better than these two knobs visually representing overmatched mediocrities doomed to failure.
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A Hollywood casting director could not do better than these two knobs visually representing overmatched mediocrities doomed to failure.
AVB was heading for like we are now that second season the football was very similar to this but he was sacked early as it began to tail off and much as people hate Sherwood he got the players playing again. Additionally the bottom and middle of the prem was much worse back then so we could to some degree coast more.
The Poch came in after and killed Kaboul and had Mason and Bentaleb running hard for us. It can be turned around but it might be to late now.
it does seem odd that we could get battered 5-0 and 6-1 and have an awful season and still not be lower table back then
As much as people hate the man, Levy would have acted sooner and avoided this situation IMO. I don't think the board have the bollocks to do what was necessary with AVB, Ramos, or Nuno
Club needs new ownership. They are clueless but above all don’t really have any ambition, if you stay still you fall behind.
I could live with relegation with new owners and a half decent manger like Poch or McKenna and a decent DoF unlike Lange.
It’s funny isn’t it all the hypotheticals.
1. Would you take 17th for a trophy
2 would you take relegation for new owners
The problem we have is that without a clear plan and investment we have no foundation. The club is sitting on sand so even if we survive we are still in a mess.
I will not have Levybot Dead Enderism.
1. He stuck it out to the bitter end with Ange literally last year
2. We are here because the culture of the club has comprehensively died, which was the painstaking personal handiwork over two decades of Levy, completely Levy and solely Levy
He will NEVER be redeemed. EVER. Stop it.
And this is really the point all the mental fanbois refuse to acknowledge.
We have never allowed this festering losing mentality to just carry on, unchecked, until AngeLOSS.
Every manager before he was sacked LONG before it got as bad as it did last season.
It always meant the next man had a fighting chance of re-focussing the squad and getting them back to at least wanting to win.
That fucking fraud had the board, the players and half the fan base under a spell and he's fucked us.
Serious question to the Angebois - was a shitty final in the meh cup worth what has followed?
Would you stick to your guns and take that win AND relegation and potential worse ramifications, or would you give that cup back and rewind to 2023 and make a better appointment?
I will not have Levybot Dead Enderism.
1. He stuck it out to the bitter end with Ange literally last year
2. We are here because the culture of the club has comprehensively died, which was the painstaking personal handiwork over two decades of Levy, completely Levy and solely Levy
He will NEVER be redeemed. EVER. Stop it.
It suits people fine to remind everyone we won a Europa League and we were never in danger of relegation.
So, to clarify, you think we should have sacked Postecoglou during the initial injury crisis at the start of the year?
Until Ange.
Any other coach under Levy would have been sacked before 24/25 kicked off.
We weren't getting battered with any regularity though; those games were Liverpool and City when Fazio was sent off in one and can't remember the other, but Suarez and Aguero had tonnes of fun and filled their boots. There was a 5-2 or 1 against Woolwich too when Adebayor went for a halfway line challenge. But they were outliers. AVB actually had a decent win %.
true - which is totally out of character, so there's a few potential reasons:
- He left it up to the Footballing administration (Munn, Lange) to make that decision
- "The Lewis Family" had already intervened
- He saw it as a 'hail mary' to put faith in a cup run, and had gone against the usual patterns with relegation not seen as a real risk
Really worrying if there is any basis to this as it means that Lange and Vinai are still in charge, they should be enacting instructions from above and nothing more at this stage, prior to being blasted into outer space on conclusion of the season.
They've proven themselves to be utterly incompetent time and time again, they should not have authority to decide what goes on the lunch menu in the canteen, let alone who sits in the dugout for us.
Maybe a little simplistic, but seems obvious to me that you don't hire a pair of fucking dweebs to play a prominent role in your sporting organisation!
True, better than Pochettino. But Conte and Mourinho were not far behind and people generally disliked that era and saw it as a turgid period for the club. Sherwood's win % was higher than Redknapp.
Stats don't always tell the full sentiment I guess
Whatever the reason is irrelevant.
The fact is, it's proven to be a terrible choice that is ultimately sending us down.
You do not let that amount of losing become normal if you're a serious football club.
We were 7th place and 5 points off of 4th!
I'm fairly confident he had, and still does have, the best win % of any PL era Spurs manager.
People mightn't have enjoyed the football but to lump him in with some of the idiots that have been in charge of late is massively out of line.
I don't know really - I guess it's all sliding doors. The fact that we won a trophy reset stupid fan obsessions like How Long Since Tottenham Hotspurs Last Won A Trophy? and also gained us a big wedge of income and all that jazz.
I think that is a different conversation.
The problem for me is that, in any normal season, Frank probably would have gone by the end of December and we'd have been moaning about a wasted season instead of panicking about which league we'd be in next season.
It seems to me like the main issue is that the "footballing" side is chronically incapable and representative of most of the "worst case scenario" of removing the consistency we had, and now we're a club top to bottom with apathy
I'd rather be bantered for 18 years without a cup, than 1 year and then relegated.
A Meh cup for a team that won fuck all in 17 years? Why don't you tell that to the thousands of genuine Spurs fans who turned up on the high street to celebrate it afterwards!
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