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Transfers January 2019 transfer thread

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3. Timo Werner
NSFB said:
Timo Werner anyone? 11 goals in Bundesliga already this season and 18 months left on his deal.
I'd certainly go after him in the summer if no one does in January.
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Jenny Talia said:
Maybe the biggest disappointment in the World Cup.
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I am torn on Werner.
I watched games of Germany and I strongly disagree. He was pretty much only player in their squad who had any sharpness at all. But German squad was horrid shtshow in this tournament + Lowe just blatantly used him in the wrong position.
Werner is massively talented guy.

But I am bit unsure if we should buy him. Our AM/ST section is very well equipped. Kane up top and Sonny as cover + Alli, Eriksen, Son, Lucas, Lamela as AM's I feel quite confident with.

Rational for buying Werner could be to prepare for theoretical possibuility if Kane would be to leave at some point (thought of it just makes me so sad, and I just spat 3 times across my shoulder to keep this reality as far as possible!) he could be a good heir. PLUS when Son would need to take Kane's role for few games in a row, then it would make our AM options slimmer.

But bit doubting if this would be high enough priority.
CM is way more important than everything else right now (and in next 2 windows).
 
4. Our DM situation and future
Totti said:
Dembele and Dier will both be fit in January.

Not that I am saying they will "feel like new signings" - but that'll be in Pochs mind. He's already praised Skipp and that he isn't afraid to play him (Yet didn't start him once over this busy period). When Dembele and Dier are back to being fit we'll have:

Dembele, Dier, Winks, Sissoko, Dele, Eriksen, Skipp all available in central midfield when playing three in midfield. I haven't even included Wanyama as I doubt we'll see him start another game for us.

I'd love a central midfielder but I'd be happy with a summer signing in mind personally.
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Totti said:
It's always the worry from anyone coming from a 'lesser' league.

But I think he'd adapt just fine. I know it lacks the same experience but I'd honestly be more than happy with replacing Dembele and Wanyama with Berge and Skipp going into next season. I do think we'd need another central midfielder but I worry about halting Skipps progress when he's showing such promising signs.
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Well the issue here is real. And I believe that urgent reaction is needed.
I believe that Berge would be a nice option. But that does not do the trick.

Wanyama- I am afraid his days are numbered in our team. Always injured.
Dembele - questionable, how long will he stay. He is not finished in sense of ability. I have argued against this times and times again. I think as a long server for the team, I would be happy to keep him in the team as long as possible. But cannot rely that he would play twice a week.
Skipp- too early to really tell ANYTHING at all. On one side he started against Burnley. But we still used very exhausted Winks and Sissoko in the though schedule. Thing is- he might be a next player to break into starting XI but it could also be that the Burnley game was his 1st and last start (I ofc hope he becomes a star, but just pointing out that we cannot count him in as a certain future option to start EPL/CL games).
Sissoko- well he has been good for few months now. But can we expect him to keep this form? I am not sure.
Winks - seems like a real deal. Can learn some but this comes with time.
Dier - has been solid anchor of CM, but he has some limitations as well.
Eriksen and Alli - sorry, not CM players. Needed in AM department. Including them to full blown CM ranks is not quite right.

Short we have very serious questionmarks over Wanyama, Dembele and Skipp.
Our solid and more-or-less dependable options are Dier, Winks and Sissoko.

So even if we get this Berge over the line we still need one more quality CM.
 
5. On our players being crap/not crap
MindBlown said:
Trippier and Davies have reached their ceillings which will still never be good enough at this level.

Dier, Winks, Wanyama and Sissoko are technically and tactically not good enough at this level too.
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Guilherme Anater said:
We can't count with players like Hugo, Trippier, Sissoko and Winks, they're crap and when our attack isn't working we play like this shit.
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Tomo said:
They are not crap, Sissoko and Winks have been playing non stop and it’s clear they are tired but we have no alternatives.

This is not the fault of individual players, this is the lack of investment in the squad showing itself and why until we are a ambitious club in the transfer market we will never be ambitious in terms of trophies, hard edged reality of modern football.
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This is serious overreaction.
Today's game was collecive mental collapse, and now throwing individual players under the bus (after we achieved 45 points from first 19 games) is not OK.

In CM we have been hit with major injury crises. We need reinforcements, but that does not mean we should write player X or Y off. And this goes for Dier, Winks, Sissoko not to mention Lloris, Trippier or Davies.

Team cannot be built like this and while it is true they can improve and play more consistently, then most of them are important parts of our team.
 
(This will be the last one. My respect if you have went through all this. Almost getting into size of a book here, ah :D )

6. On what we need in CM

I have noticed this Berge speculation going on.
Don't know much about him, but to support the defencive part of our CM roaster, he seems like a nice addition.

BUT today looking at the game, I realized smth.
We still are crying out for an experienced/leader kind of player. Some Gattusoish/ Roy Keanish kind of a guy who in such events like today BEFORE the 1:1 goal would shake some of the teammates awake. Someone who would scream if needed and lit up the teammates. Someone with authority.

Today we just dropped the shoulders and gave in.
I saw no player going around and cheering others on / trying to get them to react IN ANY WAY AT ALL.

I mean Lloris, Vertonghen, Trippier, Kane, Eriksen, Son, Davies, Alderweireld, Sissoko, Dier, Moura, Dembele, Wanyama - they are all nice and polite guys. And Sanchez, Foyth, Winks, KWP, Skipp
Okay, let's say that Alli, Rose and Aurier have some kind of edge to their personalities. But I doubt that this would be this "leader kind" of attitude. Only one who could have even a bit of this would be Lamela.

I am not sure who this could be - times ago (as I mentioned in one of my previous posts) it could have been Milner. From the more recent past it could have been Matuidi (who left from PSG as free transfer).

But I would really like if we would sign an experienced leader kind of player who would help to light others around him as well. We cannot only rely on youth and nice guys.
 
sammyspurs said:
Is NDombele not a must have anymore?
What happened in 16 weeks, and why didnt anybody want Sander Berge in the summer?

Genuinely interested as I dont know how this transfer craving works?

I though people had outlined NDombele as a specific player, with specific attributes to fulfill our specific needs and fix our problems.
Seeing as most think we "desperately" need a new central midfielder, what has happened to NDombele since the summer, and why now are people not still all over him?

Really want to know why the targets have all changed for people, and what they've seen of both players in 4 months that they have decided they dont want one and would rather have the other now?

And also why no one really thinks we should be putting in 30-40M bids for Sessengon anymore?

Try and answer with words and not "x" if you could be so kind too
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At the risk of earning your sardonic derision, I'll give it a go; since the summer, NDombele has put in some pretty impressive performances in the CL - league as well, but very noticeable ones against the likes of ManC (who will certainly be in the market for CM or two soon) which will almost certainly have got him on bigger radars. I think most of us who rated him last season, would still like him here, but are just accepting that this ship may have now sailed.

Again, I like Sessegnon, I would still like us to still be interested in him. But baring in mind we clearly haven't got a wheelbarrow of money to chuck around, I and others probably feel we have more pressing priorities than a young wide forward who needs development.
 
What a pointless thread lol..we all know even the people who still respect and trust levy, that the investment or signings we need will not happen. Not now or in the summer....what makes anyone believe we will make these signings, it has never happened even when we had the chance to win the title over Leicester...
 
TheSpurEst said:
(This will be the last one. My respect if you have went through all this. Almost getting into size of a book here, ah :D )

6. On what we need in CM

I have noticed this Berge speculation going on.
Don't know much about him, but to support the defencive part of our CM roaster, he seems like a nice addition.

BUT today looking at the game, I realized smth.
We still are crying out for an experienced/leader kind of player. Some Gattusoish/ Roy Keanish kind of a guy who in such events like today BEFORE the 1:1 goal would shake some of the teammates awake. Someone who would scream if needed and lit up the teammates. Someone with authority.

Today we just dropped the shoulders and gave in.
I saw no player going around and cheering others on / trying to get them to react IN ANY WAY AT ALL.

I mean Lloris, Vertonghen, Trippier, Kane, Eriksen, Son, Davies, Alderweireld, Sissoko, Dier, Moura, Dembele, Wanyama - they are all nice and polite guys. And Sanchez, Foyth, Winks, KWP, Skipp
Okay, let's say that Alli, Rose and Aurier have some kind of edge to their personalities. But I doubt that this would be this "leader kind" of attitude. Only one who could have even a bit of this would be Lamela.

I am not sure who this could be - times ago (as I mentioned in one of my previous posts) it could have been Milner. From the more recent past it could have been Matuidi (who left from PSG as free transfer).

But I would really like if we would sign an experienced leader kind of player who would help to light others around him as well. We cannot only rely on youth and nice guys.
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Agree to an extent. When Moutinho came on for them he was brilliant.
Obviously players of the calibre we need, everyone else will be going for. Before his injury I thought we would have gone for Lewis Cook. Players like him seem to fit what we go after.
Not having a go at any of what we have but I feel we need a better player to link defence and attack and be able to move the ball forward.
I do also think that it must be hard when turning with the ball and looking up at our attack that there is never any major movement, and therefore we go side to side to create pockets of space for Alli, Son and Eriksen to get into. Hard to get the ball to them if the team sits in.
 
bus-conductor said:
At the risk of earning your sardonic derision, I'll give it a go; since the summer, NDombele has put in some pretty impressive performances in the CL - league as well, but very noticeable ones against the likes of ManC (who will certainly be in the market for CM or two soon) which will almost certainly have got him on bigger radars. I think most of us who rated him last season, would still like him here, but are just accepting that this ship may have now sailed.

Again, I like Sessegnon, I would still like us to still be interested in him. But baring in mind we clearly haven't got a wheelbarrow of money to chuck around, I and others probably feel we have more pressing priorities than a young wide forward who needs development.
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But I don’t get the consensus that we are a big club and need to spend to compete with City and Liverpool......and then saying “oh the big clubs want him now we should go for the budget version”.

Then slag Levy off for not giving Poch his number one target.
 
nigel6305 said:
What a pointless thread lol..we all know even the people who still respect and trust levy, that the investment or signings we need will not happen. Not now or in the summer....what makes anyone believe we will make these signings, it has never happened even when we had the chance to win the title over Leicester...
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Why is it all about the title though?
Personally I’d be happy with domestic cups and CL football while pushing teams for that slip up in the league.

Do people genuinely believe this squad needs major investment to win the FA Cup or Carabou?
 
sammyspurs said:
Why is it all about the title though?
Personally I’d be happy with domestic cups and CL football while pushing teams for that slip up in the league.
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You sound like Wenger for the last 10 years - what a pathetic attitude

Because most players we have are all good enough to win it and will soon leave to go and do it elsewhere.
 
sammyspurs said:
Why is it all about the title though?
Personally I’d be happy with domestic cups and CL football while pushing teams for that slip up in the league.

Do people genuinely believe this squad needs major investment to win the FA Cup or Carabou?
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No we could win either of those, but we won't.. we always crumble when it matters most. That's why investment in players that are winners is so vital to all successful teams, levy won't pay for that even though it's not his money
 
nigel6305 said:
No we could win either of those, but we won't.. we always crumble when it matters most. That's why investment in players that are winners is so vital to all successful teams, levy won't pay for that even though it's not his money
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No. We do not need world class additions to to beat Wycombe Wanderers, Newport, Rochdale etc.....yet we fuck around and end up playing several replays etc.
Then bottle it against Utd and Chelsea, teams we comfortably destroy in the PL.

How can you say we could win either but we won’t so we must sign??

Surely the first problem is our approach to those games, team selections, mentality and the fact that deep down Poch and the players probably think that those trophies aren’t really worth it.
 
ArcspacE said:
He didn’t say that - simply explained he’s now probably out of our price range as we don’t spend 60m+ on players
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But why should that stop people wanting him?
It didn’t stop them demanding we spend well over 80M on their wish lists consisting of 3-5 players every window.
People are saying we should compete with City.....but then saying 80M is out of our price range so we should look elsewhere.

Not a consistent viewpoint
 
ArcspacE said:
You sound like Wenger for the last 10 years - what a pathetic attitude

Because most players we have are all good enough to win it and will soon leave to go and do it elsewhere.
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But they aren’t good enough to win it. Clearly.
Attributes and skill set, yes. Attitude, no.
They wasn’t good enough to beat Wolves, so why is the FA Cup beneath them?

They aren’t even good enough to win the FA Cup, or Carabou, but they have some entitlement to a PL winners medal?

Sick of players thinking they are better than Spurs and jumping ship to “win stuff” at “big clubs”.

Clubs that have been winning stuff quite happily without their help for years.
Walker has medals, but we all know he wasn’t the difference.
 
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sammyspurs said:
But why should that stop people wanting him?
It didn’t stop them demanding we spend well over 80M on their wish lists consisting of 3-5 players every window.
People are saying we should compete with City.....but then saying 80M is out of our price range so we should look elsewhere.

Not a consistent viewpoint
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We don’t need to spend 80m to find quality - not always
 
sammyspurs said:
But they aren’t good enough to win it. Clearly.
Attributes and skill set, yes. Attitude, no.
They wasn’t good enough to beat Wolves, so why is the FA Cup beneath them?

They aren’t even good enough to win the FA Cup, or Carabou, but they have some entitlement to a PL winners medal?

Sick of players thinking they are better than Spurs and jumping ship to “win stuff” at “big clubs”.

Clubs that have been winning stuff quite happily without their help for years.
Walker has medals, but we all know he wasn’t the difference.
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I guess their logic is you need a squad of 11 quality players, not 6-7 and a few cloggers
 
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