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Transfers January Transfer Thread 2024
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Well, he said signing him "for the start of the Jan TW" so surely that pretty clearly says that in his view, them signing him on 1st Jan rather than (say) 15th Jan made little difference to their overall long-term success. Yes I suppose him featuring in a couple of games in early Jan could have made a difference, but surely no one is seriously going to say that one or two specific games in early Jan drive the long term success of a club. Obviously any one cup game is the difference between going through and going out, that's the nature of a knock-out competition, but I think if you asked people why Liverpool have been so successful in recent years, far more would say "signing Van Dijk" than " making sure we got Van Dijk in early Jan not a couple of weeks later".
EDIT: Of course I'm indulging there for a moment the idea that they signed him 'early' and not 5 months later than intended, and I'm ignoring all the contentious context of that transfer that has been discussed to death over the last 10 or so pages. Even without those two factors, the 'early in Jan' bit can't seriously be considered to be the cause of Liverpool's long-term success.
I mean, in a sort of factual way, it was very early in the January window and not really in the summer window at all z
scarletjim
- wonderful, mature discourse.
Shadydan
- valiant work.In April, no one will care whether we signed Dragusin before or after the Burnley game… let alone next season. Incredibly febrile and myopic takes in here.
"Sort of" doing a fair amount of heavy lifting there..... He was signed 27 Dec in amongst a tapping up 'storm'.
Anyway. I've avoided this bollocks all day... Would be a shame to get heavily mixed up in it all now.
Like you said earlier...... If Dragusin gets done this week it's still a fairly early-window signing.
That’s why I made sure in my question. I wanted to be sure that’s what he meant.
It’s a fucking stupid debate though really. There is zero comparison in the way FSG and Levy have historically done business. FSG are market makers, Levy tries to beat the market.
In April, no one will care whether we signed Dragusin before or after the Burnley game… let alone next season. Incredibly febrile and myopic takes in here.
Ange might.
Pal, there was a time when I played football and got paid for it, though not in fancy European leagues and barely made enough during my very short career to afford a bus fare. Also done my coaching badges. And I'm friends with a few ex-pros (PL, Ligue 1, Hungary, China...) and sports media. Before you have a pop at me as if I'm name-dropping/bragging/pretending to be ITK...I ain't. Just saying I know a tiny bit about how it works. Also, there's that underrated thing called logic.
You're obviously entitled to your opinion, even to bash mine...but it don't change that had we really wanted that kid in on Jan 1st, it was possible. Yeah quite probable that we'd have had to pay a premium, but there was a way to get it done.
Slow down and take time to read things matey.
That would have taken ages. I’ve got the gist now.
It's a myth that clubs still wait til the TW opens to approach another club or the player directly/via his agent. Every now and then a selling club, for whatever reason, will get all pissed off about it and kick up a fuss...and the other club will be reprimanded/punished or just booed by the media and footy fans. But it happens every day of the year, everywhere. Guess what? Spurs do it too and it gets done to Spurs.
Again, had we really wanted that Radu kid in on Jan 1st (and I bet Ange would've loved it), there was a way. What it'd have taken, I ain't gonna claim to know, I ain't privy to the negotiations...though paying a premium probably the key. The fact he ain't here yet considering the discussions with Genoa and the player quite probably started weeks ago, it makes you wonder. But ofc if his club asked for an extra 10 or 15mil for him to land here Jan 1st, well yeah no way. Anyway, we'll never know, as always.
Been immense for Leeds. One of the very best CB in that whole league...and probably better than some current PL ones
That’s one way of looking at it.
Another, probably more accurate, way is that they couldn’t get it over the line in the summer, but instead of giving up or going for a cheaper alternative, they went back for him and got him.
We would never be in a position to “praise” or otherwise, something like this because ENIC and Levy would never do it.
They are all tradeables that can be agreed alongside a longer sale price. I doubt Levy concedes on the latter and instead tries to achieve former and latter and ‘win’
They got stupid money for Coutinho which is why they were able to pay that much for Van Dijk.
Brentford set huge Ivan Toney transfer price as Arsenal and Chelsea consider player sales
It is understood both Woolwich and Chelsea would need to sell players first in order to meet Brentford’s £100m asking price
Miguel Delaney
Thu, 4 January 2024 at 4:33 pm CET·2-min read
Brentford have set a price of £100m for Ivan Toney to be sold this January, as Chelsea are looking into making sales in order to challenge Woolwich for his signature.
Like we did for bale, berbatov, modric, walker, and kane?
There is no point looking through FSG and ENIC transfers with the same lens.
Completely different mentality and model. I’ve made peace with it because they’ve appointed a manager that fits their mentality and model.
Occasionally frustrates you when you know that a player like Kane leaves and they will never sign a players of the same value but it can be fun finding equal talent at cheaper prices.
Replacing Kane like for like wouldn't have been a good idea,especially since we already had Richarlison and Son. It made more sense to use that money to improve the team overall.
Not even sure it would have been possible either.
Now, if we had the model to use that money to go get Rafael Leao on the other hand ….. lol
No, push those thoughts back. We did great with our recruitment spending the Kane money before we got it.
Really wouldn’t be against them going after a starting 11 potential youngster for the front 3 this window though. Nusa or Bardgji type. Don’t even need to know who it is or have an opinion on them.