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Transfers January Transfer Thread 2024

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Mate, you seem a pretty well-educated fella, so please don't pretend you didn't get my overall point and resort to cheap shots just because we're clearly on different side of the fence as far as the Dragu transfer is concerned.

Yes, we've had crazy bad luck with injuries (still, not the worst in the Prem). And yes, we've still found ways to pick up points and stay in contention...creds to Ange & the boys. I can read. I breathe Spurs day in day out, I'm aware of our results & league standing. Thanks.

The big fella should've had that extra CB he asked for in the summer. Injuries, poor form, suspensions...that's part of football. Daniel knows that. That's the job of the powers that be to prepare for such eventualities, by making sure you have sufficient cover if/when the proverbial shit should hit the fan. Especially when the man in charge of the troops has told you repeatedly that he's one short.

So yeah, in my humble opinion, it's bollocks that he wasn't provided with the full toolbox in the summer, when it was so glaringly obvious that we were exposing ourselves to danger acting that way (again)...and it's also bollocks that we're going into the Burnley game without a new CB, be it Dragu and some other kid Ange fancies.
No problem, that at least makes sense - the way you worded the 'its bollocks' part earlier read as though you were saying those two factors (league position and injuries) weren't true.

RE: Cheap shots - there are far too many people on all sides of every argument on here who seem to think that no one else has right to a different opinion, or who can have a valid point even if it disagrees with their own. If you're not one of them, and 'All that matter is' was just a lazy turn of phrase, great. :)
 
FFS can people please stop talking about a couple of million quid like it doesn't matter! My last job was at an organisation with an annual global turnover of more than £100 billion, yet if one of our UK Finance Directors had ever dared to suggest that losing out on £2m somewhere didn't matter, they would have been shown the door pretty sharpish! Wealthy companies don't stay wealthy by being frivolous with money. They may make mistakes - a takeover that didn't deliver what was expected (for football read N'Dombele) - but they don't just routinely knowingly pay over the odds for assets instead of negotiating an appropriate price. They might do so once in a blue moon for an acquisition that they really think will change the world (for football some might read Van Dijk) - but not for 'normal' transfers.

It never ceases to amaze me how little people on here seem to understand about business / money.
So what?

A couple of million for a player who has a very high chance of being worth double his asking price in the future.

Maybe help us secure CL postion.... I mnean how many points have we thrown away this season because fo the lack of depth and quality with ou CB's?

How many millions is that going to cost us?

Football is not like every other business and a couple of million for a player in a position we are desperately in need of is not goint to bankrupt us, but it may well do wonders for pushing us on and backing Ange and could well make that back in next to no time.
 
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Man you're embarrassing yourself.

My posts = my opinion.

But cheers, I'll remember to add a disclaimer to all my future posts.

Now you can also put me on ignore, same for all them other posters you don't agree with...that way you'll have a nice easy scroll whenever you're on here.
I have never put anyone on ignore and never would - for me it's important to listen to and try to understand people who disagree with me, more so than listening to people who agree with me. :)
 
Bald headed c**t fucking around as usual. Should have just paid the asking price Genoa wanted, around 30 million if the rumours are true.

The bald headed cunt, dicking about with a critical area that we desperately need depth.

A fucking loan, and I wouldn't be suprised if the Napoli rumours are true too.

Have to let it go.

Transfer will probably happen in about 2 weeks after following our usual pattern. There are at least 2 levels of fucking around to go.
 
Every

Every opposition manager to their medical team: "Did you bring the extra bandages and blood transfusion kits?"
Grandson, lemme tell you about the time Sergio Ramos & Pepe were seen as the naughtiest, dirtiest, meanest shithousery ever in football. Well...that was until Spurs formed the diabolic duo of the Argie Attila & Romanian Hulk
 
Hotspur88 on SC -"Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if today was the day we finally sealed it with Genoa."

Dragusin

Arnold Schwarzenegger Anger GIF by TV4


just a complete wild guess in the hopes of gaining some likes the sad loser, and itk credit if it were to happen.
Biggest bullshite on there, he really triggers me lol
 
Have to let it go.

Transfer will probably happen in about 2 weeks after following our usual pattern. There are at least 2 levels of fucking around to go.
Yep in time for Brentford when Romero and VDV are back.

Still wouldnt be shocked if it ends up being Kelly or Tosin, both 6 months on their contracts left, both playing for non relegation threatened clubs so probably happy to sell, both much cheaper.
 
Football isn't a normal business when it comes to transfers and money.

Paying the extra 2million happens more often for teams that place greater value on results than money.
I actually agree with your last sentence. But that doesn't make them right. I (and many others on here) would prefer the club to be run well from a business perpsective as well as a football perspective. I don't want us to routinely overpay (and hence get a reputation as a club that can be relied upon to routinely overpay. (Perhaps it's the Jew in me :) ). That's not the case at Chelscum or Man U, and nowadays they are regularly taken to the cleaners for it.

I think it's fine for you, me and others to disagree on that - no one is right or wrong, we just have different perceptions maybe even of what a football club is (some on here have actually said previously that in their view THFC is not a business!!!) - I guess the main thing is what ENIC / Levy thinks, and I'm pretty sure they will continue to run the club as well as they can from a business perspective. :)
 
We got stupid money for Kane, but we’re haggling over a 25/30 million deal for Dragusin?
We reinvested the fee for Kane into the squad and are a much better team as a result.

As for the haggling, almost every team does it. You can see fans of other teams complaining about it as well but there's a reason for it. If you don't haggle, you end up like Man Utd and get charged more and end up paying 90m for a player like Antony who would've gone for half that to any other club who plays the game.
 
No problem, that at least makes sense - the way you worded the 'its bollocks' part earlier read as though you were saying those two factors (league position and injuries) weren't true.

RE: Cheap shots - there are far too many people on all sides of every argument on here who seem to think that no one else has right to a different opinion, or who can have a valid point even if it disagrees with their own. If you're not one of them, and 'All that matter is' was just a lazy turn of phrase, great. :)
Fair play, don't want to get into a dick-measuring contest with you...yes, cause you'd likely win by a few inches, but also cause it's just friggin football!

The bollocks bit was, in retrospect, probably misplaced and open to misinterpretation. And yes, the all that matters was a lazy turn of phrase.

I've my opinions and it's pretty well known where I stand re transfers, ENIC/Levy...and sure I will defend those. But somebody wants to see things differently, of course that's cool. As long as it's done in a mature & respectful manner, I've no issue entering into a debate. Especially cause there are always some valid points made by the other side...for instance I did rate your point about 2 mil not being money wealthy people will just see as small change. That being said, some on here still annoy me, I'll say it...cause it's blindly defending Levy for the sake of it, without bringing anything concrete or new to the table, just the same old lazy rhetoric. Same on the Levy In side.

Anyway, let's fucking smash Burnley without Radu, win the FA Cup and finish ahead of our cunty neighbours in the league.

COYS
 
Hotspur88 on SC -"Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if today was the day we finally sealed it with Genoa."

Dragusin
I'm trying to understand the psychology of those people. They don't think Levy invests in the team enough, yet they constantly believe that all these deals are going to be done.

And then when they don't happen,they get mad at Levy who they think is cheap anyway. And they do this every single year.

Why would they even expect all these transfers to go through anymore?
 
I actually agree with your last sentence. But that doesn't make them right. I (and many others on here) would prefer the club to be run well from a business perpsective as well as a football perspective. I don't want us to routinely overpay (and hence get a reputation as a club that can be relied upon to routinely overpay. (Perhaps it's the Jew in me :) ). That's not the case at Chelscum or Man U, and nowadays they are regularly taken to the cleaners for it.

I think it's fine for you, me and others to disagree on that - no one is right or wrong, we just have different perceptions maybe even of what a football club is (some on here have actually said previously that in their view THFC is not a business!!!) - I guess the main thing is what ENIC / Levy thinks, and I'm pretty sure they will continue to run the club as well as they can from a business perspective. :)

If you are an adult you recognize there has to be a balance and acknowledge that Levy has done a great job building the foundations of the business to become a revenue machine. This has helped performance some seasons as well.

If you are an adult you also have to acknowledge that it's a football club built on the good will and faith of customers (fans). Those fans have been the collateral the business has been built on, the business that makes the board members millions. It's not unreasonable that those fans want to see a bigger priority placed on results over the occasional slight overpay to reduce the risk of dropping points.
 
So what?

A couple of million for a player who has a very high chance of being wort double his asking price in the future.

Maybe help us secure CL postion.... I mnean how many points have we thrown away this season because fo the lack of depth and quality with out CB's?

How many millions is that going to cost us?

Football is not like every other business and a couple of million for a player in a position we are desperately in need of is not goint to bankrupt us, but it may well do wonders for pushing us on and backing Ange and could well make that back in next to no time.
It will bankrupt us if we begin to routinely overpay for players and hence get a reputation for doing so. Whether you like it or not, I can guarantee to you that ENIC and Levy see THFC as a business as well as a football club, and they will make decisions with both hats on to the best of their abilities (of course that doesn't mean they will always get it right). If Daniel was convinced that getting Dragusin in on1st Jan would be the difference between us winning the FA Cup or not winning it, then I can promise you he would have ensured the club did everything in its power to make it happen - why wouldn't he? Whatever anyone might say about him (and there have certainly been lots of valid criticisms over the years), he definitely does want to make Spurs richer, and if that's through CL qualification etc, he'd be delighted with that. So, why do YOU think he hasn't paid the (currently mythical / unsourced) £2m extra to get Dragusin in yesterday? Surely the only answer must be that in his opinion, it wouldn't guarantee success worth more than that £2m, it wouldn't even increase our chances of such success enough to be worth £2m.

When you look at it like above, football is actually a lot more 'like every other business' than perhaps we like to think. Well certainly to those who have the most power to impact the club anyway. :)
 
Mate, you seem a pretty well-educated fella, so please don't pretend you didn't get my overall point and resort to cheap shots just because we're clearly on different side of the fence as far as the Dragu transfer is concerned.

Yes, we've had crazy bad luck with injuries (still, not the worst in the Prem). And yes, we've still found ways to pick up points and stay in contention...creds to Ange & the boys. I can read. I breathe Spurs day in day out, I'm aware of our results & league standing. Thanks.

The big fella should've had that extra CB he asked for in the summer. Injuries, poor form, suspensions...that's part of football. Daniel knows that. That's the job of the powers that be to prepare for such eventualities, by making sure you have sufficient cover if/when the proverbial shit should hit the fan. Especially when the man in charge of the troops has told you repeatedly that he's one short.

So yeah, in my humble opinion, it's bollocks that he wasn't provided with the full toolbox in the summer, when it was so glaringly obvious that we were exposing ourselves to danger acting that way (again)...and it's also bollocks that we're going into the Burnley game without a new CB, be it Dragu and some other kid Ange fancies.
To support your point, I’d argue that we haven’t been incredibly unfortunate with injuries in the CB department.

It’s only the games against Brighton and Bournemouth where both starting CBs were missing with injuries, they’re the only games I would consider to be particularly unlucky.

There’s a lot of back and forth in this thread and the standard cunt-offs along the way, but surely everyone agrees that the squad was left light of that CB it needed in the summer which was a huge oversight by the club, and ultimately that has cost us points in the first half of the season.

The team have coped incredibly well, but it shouldn’t have happened and we should be seeking to rectify that as quickly as possible within this window.

We all need to be realistic that deals are more complicated than they seem on paper, and there’s no real incentive for Genoa to do a deal quickly either. But if the club aren’t pushing this as hard as is possible they’re fucking idiots.
 
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