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Transfers January Transfer Thread 2024
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Yes Son and Sarr, Biss away, injuries, suspensions. An injury to Richie we'll be in deep shit. We got the top 4 and many other difficult games to play. You may call it negativity I call it being realistic
I wouldn't.
He actually tried get Ramos in the summer after Jol took the side to 5th, so there is no reason why he wouldnt dp something like that again.
I mean it’s possible to know about both incomings and outgoings.
I don’t think that is what’s being suggested.
I think the argument is that whether our objectives were winning the league, top 4, mid-table or even avoiding relegation, all those objectives were compromised by not bringing in that additional CB.
You yourself have said it was an oversight and it has clearly cost us points.
I get your points and I don’t disagree with you that transfers are not as simple to complete as people believe, but the folks in here are (quite understandably) conflating the disappointment of not getting that CB in the summer window to what’s happening now.
The reality is no one for certain knows how hard the club are pressing for a deal. Others choose to believe they aren’t because of their perception of historic transfer activity, instead believing they’re prioritising the commercial deal over the benefit to the squad. I myself don’t, but it’s an understandable argument knowing Levy‘a track record.
What is certain is that if the club aren’t doing absolutely everything to bolster our depth at CB with quality additions then it’s absolutely criminal.
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No. 3 loans.
GET IT DONE NOW ETC
We should have had some signings in place for the 1st of Jan, but we don't have owners with any real ambition so they're more than happy to play silly buggers until the final days of the window.
Ange is going into a gunfight armed only with knives!
Typical Levy/ENIC cunts, never any sense of urgency with these fucks.
Ange is going into a gunfight armed only with knives!
Typical Levy/ENIC cunts, never any sense of urgency with these fucks.
Not transfer related but Jol was completely undermined the week before the season started when there were pictures of Commoli and Levy meeting Juande Ramos and then Ramos saying he'd turned down a dizzying offer. Jol had no authority after that as everyone knew he was on borrowed time and it was reflected in performances and results. The whole thing was piss poor.
Have you missed the part of the season where we've missed Romero due to suspensions and injury, missed van de Ven, Bentancur and Maddison for half of it, injuries to Sarr and Richarlison and the suspensions of Udogie and Bissouma?
Yet we're still 5th....
We have Romero, van de Ven, Maddison all to return from injury in the second half of the season. Son, Bissouma and Sarr to come back from international duty...
It most definitely sounds a little negative.
That's fine. I'll tag you when we do just to confirm the certainty.
That was because of Jol not getting on with Commoli more than anything though, we wanted to start acting like a proper club with a DoF and Jol wanted to sign his own players. Pretty sure we only started to talk to Ramos after the terrible start to the season too.
Either way, 17 years ago was a long time ago and we're light years ahead now than we were back then when getting the likes of Juande Ramos (who was highly thought of at the time) seemed like a step we needed to take to really go to the next level Jol was never going to take us.
We aren't going to sack Ange for finishing 5th when you consider the season we had with injuries, suspensions and losing the clubs greatest goalscorer. Don't be silly
Pretty sure that was weeks into the season after we had already lost a few...
Jol and Comolli didn't get on. Jol wanted to sign the likes of Martin Petrov (iirc)
I imagine Comolli had a vision more in line with Levy and that is why Jol was never going to the last. Levy and Comolli wanted to try and take the club to the next level and they knew Jol never could do that. Turns out Ramos couldn't either.
Convo started when
Richard Arlison
said:Bearing in mind we're not risking anything at the moment because the next match isn't until the 14th
And
Clearly what he's suggesting if we were serious about winning the Prem we ought to have covered the 3rd CB position, but my point is that we were never on for winning the Prem, our goal this season was primarily to clear the decks and rebuild and based on where we were at the beginning of the window no-one would have expected us to finish the job.
Followed by a load of mental gymsastics and waffle about what Ange has been hinting about us winning the Prem and what the players have been saying, just a load of nonsense.
Like I said I have 0 qualms saying we didn't fail in brining in another CB in but trying to suggest that we were on for winning or challenging for the Prem this season is straight up BS, obviously our expectations have changed now because we've done so well to be at this stage.
I get why people are disappointed but think about it for a second, there's absolutely 0 need to panic because as I said we don't play Utd until the 14th so bringing up the fact that not getting him now will cost us points is a silly argument - people as usual are just projecting insecurities.
Enjoy your last window here. I’ll miss this kind of insight.
Don't think there's anything wrong with hoping for improvement over time.
But maybe that's overly optimistic of me.
They met him in August, it was just before or just after Sunderland first game of the season.
So which day is it fine to panic in your view? If no signing by the 12th/13th?Convo started when
Bearing in mind we're not risking anything at the moment because the next match isn't until the 14th
And
Clearly what he's suggesting if we were serious about winning the Prem we ought to have covered the 3rd CB position, but my point is that we were never on for winning the Prem, our goal this season was primarily to clear the decks and rebuild and based on where we were at the beginning of the window no-one would have expected us to finish the job.
Followed by a load of mental gymsastics and waffle about what Ange has been hinting about us winning the Prem and what the players have been saying, just a load of nonsense.
Like I said I have 0 qualms saying we didn't fail in brining in another CB in but trying to suggest that we were on for winning or challenging for the Prem this season is straight up BS, obviously our expectations have changed now because we've done so well to be at this stage.
I get why people are disappointed but think about it for a second, there's absolutely 0 need to panic because as I said we don't play Utd until the 14th so bringing up the fact that not getting him now will cost us points is a silly argument - people as usual are just projecting insecurities.
I read what he said.Convo started when
Bearing in mind we're not risking anything at the moment because the next match isn't until the 14th
And
Clearly what he's suggesting if we were serious about winning the Prem we ought to have covered the 3rd CB position, but my point is that we were never on for winning the Prem, our goal this season was primarily to clear the decks and rebuild and based on where we were at the beginning of the window no-one would have expected us to finish the job.
Followed by a load of mental gymsastics and waffle about what Ange has been hinting about us winning the Prem and what the players have been saying, just a load of nonsense.
Like I said I have 0 qualms saying we didn't fail in brining in another CB in but trying to suggest that we were on for winning or challenging for the Prem this season is straight up BS, obviously our expectations have changed now because we've done so well to be at this stage.
I get why people are disappointed but think about it for a second, there's absolutely 0 need to panic because as I said we don't play Utd until the 14th so bringing up the fact that not getting him now will cost us points is a silly argument - people as usual are just projecting insecurities.
I obviously don’t agree that we were targeting the PL pre-season and I doubt the clubs ambitions went anything beyond CL (if even that), but I still don’t think it negates the overall point Richard was trying to make that whatever the targets / ambitions were, they were severely compromised by not bringing that CB in, and it’s absolutely cost us points.
I’m not panicking, I wish others weren’t either, but we’re on the cusp of top 4 and not a millions miles away from top of the league, people just want to see urgency that we’re supporting the manager to finish as high in the table as we can.
Again, I’m not suggesting we aren’t doing that, but I also have a little sympathy for those that appear over-eager to build on the first half of this season because of where it might take us.
Spurs fans have long memories, they still have the name Ryan Nelson ringing in their ear from a time we were in a similar position. Club has moved forward greatly since then, but can you blame them for the cynicism?
That was after the season started...
We had lost 1-0 to newly promoted Sunderland and then got embarrassed at home to Everton 3-1 and then the news about Juande Ramos come out.
Our early season performances up until then had nothing to do with Juande Ramos being linked. It may have been Jol knowing his job wasn't secure due to him and Comolli not getting on but we kept him on and it lead us to winning 1 game in 10 and on course to getting knocked out in Europe too.
Jol had to go - but it should have been handled better.
Yeah, start of the season so 2 5th place finishes were written off because of 1 or 2 poor results. I doubt Jol could have pushed us on much further but it was a shoody, piss poor way of doing it and he's tenure was dead in the water from that moment. So its unfair to mention the first 10 games as he'd been so undermined. If they had so little faith it should have been done end of 06/7.
That was after the season started...
We had lost 1-0 to newly promoted Sunderland and then got embarrassed at home to Everton 3-1 and then the news about Juande Ramos come out.
If the overall point is that we should have got another CB in which would have given us a better chance in the league then no-one in their right mind is going to disagree with that and I certainly wasn't, this was my point and this is what he responded to hence why the debate kicked off: