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Transfers January Transfer Thread 24/25

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Grap1st said:
I'd rather sign Peter Crouch right now. Also benefit is getting abbey clancy in the stands.
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Mostly wrong said:
The bolded is why what you're saying isn't necessarily relevant to what the chap I'm replying to is saying, because he's positing that Liverpool bought Keane with the sole purpose of weakening Spurs, and not for the purpose of strengthening Liverpool FC. Which is fucking bollocks.
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Certainly that was a Liverpool goal. But they also wanted to buy a good striker.

Keane was a very good striker but not fitting the way Liverpool wanted to play. Hence 6 months later Keane was allowed to return to Spurs giving Spurs an unexpected but welcome healthy profit .

I now know why you have your user name.
 
Spursidol said:
I consider him to be a much better player than you think - which is why your frame of reference is not one I relate to - you relate him to players I consider to be inferior to him.

And hence £30m was under valuing him ...... and probably we could only replace him properly when Kane came through the academy, which in turn confirms that the valuation (worth to Spurs) was higher than you think.

I suspect that you either do not understand the concept of, or have not considered his 'worth to Spurs' which is why your valuation is too low - which in turn is why Spurs struggled to find a player of the same calibre for years.
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How good was he, then? Better than prime Torres? Better than RVP who moved for £8m less than Berbatov, several years after?
What you're banging on about is perceived value of a player to the selling club, that's a completely abstract concept, using no actual metrics to measure it. When you apply actual metrics, like, you know, what players of a similar talent bracket were transferring for at a similar time period, we did very well out of the Berbatov transfer.

Our inability to replace Berbatov effectively has absolutely nothing to do with whether we received enough money for him, it's entirely down to our inability to scout an effective replacement and sell the project to them to convince them to come, as well as probably a refusal to be competitive on wages. We spent something like £69m combined on Crouch, Keane, Defoe, Pavlyuchenko and Darren Bent. If we had spent that wisely on 2-3 actually class strikers we would have been fine post Berbatov, the fact we didn't has absolutely nothing to do with the sale fee.
 
Don Pedro said:
Does anyone actually think we'll sign Tel?
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Fuck it! I’ve entered the blind optimism stage of my transfer window denial and fully believe we’ll get him!

Agents Kane and Odobert have done their bit.

Tel’s team are only interested in what’s best for their client and told him money isn’t what’s most important!

Tel looks at the career trajectory of Kane, Bale and Modric and realises we’re a great option.

He’s noticed how many minutes Gray and Bergvall are getting.

WELCOME TO THFC MATHYS!

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FightingIllini said:
Eh, for us to spunk that fee on a player of Solanke's age tells me that was one the manager was really pushing for. That ain't a club signing.

I sense Solanke and Richy were both Levy saying "who's the top gettable guy on my gaffer's list? Make the deal" and satisfying himself that he could thereby never be criticized for not "backing" the manager.
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To be fair. There is no “us” in any of this.

Until we see the club accounts we can’t be sure what is paid for whom and how. But then we do know that fees are not paid in one instalment and that amortisation applies.

If eventually the club pays £30m for either Solanke or Brazil’s #9 then honestly I would be surprised.

Solanke would be a West Ham player now if they had paid his wage demands. There is no romance in this. Levy is not “us” and does not have “our” best interests at heart. He has his own.
 
Spursidol said:
Liverpool bought Keane for £xm but 6 months later sold him back for less than £Xm - reason is they didn't really want him, but did want to weaken Spurs.
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Spursidol said:
Certainly that was a Liverpool goal. But they also wanted to buy a good striker.

Keane was a very good striker but not fitting the way Liverpool wanted to play. Hence 6 months later Keane was allowed to return to Spurs giving Spurs an unexpected but welcome healthy profit .

I now know why you have your user name.
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Who's tying themselves in knots now?
 
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