- Premier League (England): The average player salary is around £3,090,200 per year, which is approximately €3,523,307.
- La Liga (Spain): The average salary is around €2,326,174 per year.
- Serie A (Italy): The average salary is around €1,800,930 per year.
- Bundesliga (Germany): The average salary is around €1,624,488 per year.
- Ligue 1 (France): The average salary is around €1,176,910 per year.
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Think United beating Athletic Bilbao (who finished 4th in La Liga) 7-1 over two legs in the Europa League Semis is more what I'm thinking of in league depth.
Barca, Real and Athletico are excellent but the rest are nowhere near the Premiership equivalents currently.
You shouldn’t cherry pick results. Need to look across the board across multiple seasons.
Sevilla won the EL a few seasons ago and finished 12th in the league.
Go back from 2000 onwards and compare the performance os the different leagues in European competitions. LaLiga is first. Easily.
Yeh but you can say exactly the same about Madrid and Barca in la Liga.
City, Liverpool, Chelsea have all win the CL league recently. Utd before their current misery were always competing in finals. Woolwich and us have both been in CL finals. We won the EL, Chavs and fucking West Ham won the conference. There is clearly more strength outside the top 2 clubs in the PL than in La Liga. I think most people would acknowledge that.
I know it's not the be all and end all but I thought it was a good example. Do think if you go back that far I completely agree Spain have been the most successful club nation at Champions league and Europa league in the last 25 years but again I think the gulf between the top of that league and maybe 6th downwards is a cliff.
Last 5 years the quality in the premier league has just skyrocketed compared to La Liga.
Madrid, Athletico and Barca have spent €345 million this window and the league in it's entirely has spent €463 million. Sunderland alone have spent €141 million so they've outdone the other 17 teams in that league on their own.
Sure are you taking into account that Athletic were down a man for most of the first match ?
Premier League vs La Liga
If you asked 5 years ago I probably would have said La Liga. Today no chance, if we are comparing the league and I mean the league not the top 2-3 teams then the Premier League by a mile. Reason is mostly money and the long term impact of it.
Last season the top 2 weren’t great, Liverpool and Woolwich where not peak Klopp Liverpool or peak Pep Man City but the league as a whole ignoring the bottom 3 was crazy competitive. Brighton, Bournemouth, Villa, Newcastle any of these teams could give Barcelona or PSG a game.
I never seen the premier league or any league have 8-12 teams that are good before. So while the top 2 are a bit weaker the league as a whole is much stronger. Now Liverpool this season, Chelsea, Woolwich and City will be a lot stronger this season. I can see a few teams like Bournemouth drop off losing so many players but the prem as a League is racing ahead. At the same time La Liga feels like it is more than ever two teams with Atletico making the odd jump in.
It’s why as a club we need to wake up to the fact the effort needed to be top 7-8 is the same effort that was needed for top 4 in prior seasons. Top 4 is going to be much harder for us. If we were in La Liga I think top 4 would be very realistic, I don’t think we will be top 4 in the prem this season.
If you asked 5 years ago I probably would have said La Liga. Today no chance, if we are comparing the league and I mean the league not the top 2-3 teams then the Premier League by a mile. Reason is mostly money and the long term impact of it.
Last season the top 2 weren’t great, Liverpool and Woolwich where not peak Klopp Liverpool or peak Pep Man City but the league as a whole ignoring the bottom 3 was crazy competitive. Brighton, Bournemouth, Villa, Newcastle any of these teams could give Barcelona or PSG a game.
I never seen the premier league or any league have 8-12 teams that are good before. So while the top 2 are a bit weaker the league as a whole is much stronger. Now Liverpool this season, Chelsea, Woolwich and City will be a lot stronger this season. I can see a few teams like Bournemouth drop off losing so many players but the prem as a League is racing ahead. At the same time La Liga feels like it is more than ever two teams with Atletico making the odd jump in.
It’s why as a club we need to wake up to the fact the effort needed to be top 7-8 is the same effort that was needed for top 4 in prior seasons. Top 4 is going to be much harder for us. If we were in La Liga I think top 4 would be very realistic, I don’t think we will be top 4 in the prem this season.
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They only managed to beat them 4-0 on aggregate across both legs when it was 11 v 11
The other critical factor is the Pep and Klopp pressball revolution which equalled, and by now probably flipped, the once huge technical/tactical advantage La Liga had. For many years PL teams paid players more to play worse football, but that's over now.
The Premier League always had some financial margin, especially 4-20, but since Covid the gap has just exploded, with nobody but RM, Barca and Atleti even on the radar screen anymore, even of PL relegation fodder, and even those three aren't keeping up.
The Premier League is now the indisputable best league in the world under every possible rubric and the margin grows every year.
I think the issue the prem has now is entertainment. Always the danger you end up with Pep clone vs Arteta clone teams throughout the league. Little individuality against the machine.
Totally, though that's kind of becoming true globally. The game of creative mavericks and the unexpected is devolving into a contest of hyper-optimized coordinated team pressing.
It’s why Messi and to some extent Ronaldo at their peak were such a joy. No system could stop them, they where to good. Press Messi and he just runs around 3-4 players, infact pressing could be your biggest mistake.
Wtf Bayern are now threatening to report us for not having permission to conduct a medical.
Bayern Munich's João Palhinha in transfer talks with another club
Bayern Munich have confirmed that midfielder João Palhinha is in talks with another club about a possible transfer away from the Allianz Arena.
www.bundesliga.com
Bayern and the Bundesliga have confirmed that Palhinha is negotiating a move.
Per the Bundesliga page they are referring to Bayern's twitter. So I assume that they (Bayern) announced that Joao wouldn't be in their friendly today because of negotiations.
Kinda like how we announced who wouldn't be on the asia tour because they were looking at loans.
Yea fair point alright
The last true maverick, IMO, was Ronaldinho, an absolute joy to watch because he played with joy and an unmatched skillset.
I'd argue that he's up there as one of the most outrageously skillful players the World has ever seen.
I don’t think anyone would dispute that. He did things on the pitch I’ve still never seen anybody else do. His 2003 to 2005 years at Barcelona he was playing football from another planet.
If he played now in the era of social media, the memes and clips of his skills would break the internet.
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