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Player João Palhinha

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You’re wrong about a “country mile”

Look at his contribution to the points we've won in the PL. Look at what he gives us creatively and holding the ball up. We would be in a much much worse position without him. The only other players you can say that about are the CBs but they aren't one player.

It’s debateable

You just don’t like admitting you were wrong. Which you were about Palhinha

If you want me to admit I was wrong about Palinha, I am more than happy to say he's made a bigger contribution than I was expecting, so I was wrong about that. That is a great thing to be wrong about for me. I have seen better passing than I was expecting as well, even if we have seen the struggles that a lot of people predicted without a better passer in that position.

Doesn't mean Kudus isn't far and away our player of the season so far.
 
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Look at his contribution to the points we've won in the PL. Look at what he gives us creatively and holding the ball up. We would be in a much much worse position without him. The only other players you can say that about are the CBs but they aren't one player.



If you want me to admit I was wrong about Palinha, I am more than happy to say he's made a bigger contribution than I was expecting, so I was wrong about that. That is a great thing to be wrong about for me. I have seen better passing than I was expecting as well, even if we have seen the struggles that a lot of people predicted without a better passer in that position.

Doesn't mean Kudus isn't far and away our player of the season so far.
You are not wrong Richard. A broken clock is right twice a day. Yes he scored a great equaliser in the final moments but for large parts of that game he was like a revolving door in the midfield. Wolves players ran round him, through him, past him... his goal contributions will eventually dry up and fans will realise he cannot play in the midfield of a team with aspirations of being top 4/5.
 
I've been advocating for a real defensive midfielder for three years now, can't say i'm dissapointed.

Pal has been immense for us so far, and totally transformed our midfield.

They said he couldn't pass the ball, but those sweeping long balls from him has been mint. And he has been an offensive threat too.

Great signing!
Yes great signing for now. He has in no way totally transformed our midfield though. You must be watching a different team.
 
You are not wrong Richard. A broken clock is right twice a day. Yes he scored a great equaliser in the final moments but for large parts of that game he was like a revolving door in the midfield. Wolves players ran round him, through him, past him... his goal contributions will eventually dry up and fans will realise he cannot play in the midfield of a team with aspirations of being top 4/5.

I think we can finish top 4 with JP in our MF but it depends on who Frank balances it out with.

He hasn’t found the balance yet.

Agree on the Wolves game though. Until JP scored, it was another example of why his partnership with RB doesn’t work for us, especially at home. And not all of that was RBs fault.
 
For me it's a question of Palhinha and who else lines up alongside him.

He's a must start for me as much as possible.

He's also getting goals which for me puts him above Bentancur in the pecking order.

Our best midfield at this stage should be Palhinha, Sarr and Simons. Lucas can rotate with Sarr and Bentancur.
 
I think we can finish top 4 with JP in our MF but it depends on who Frank balances it out with.

He hasn’t found the balance yet.

Agree on the Wolves game though. Until JP scored, it was another example of why his partnership with RB doesn’t work for us, especially at home. And not all of that was RBs fault.
We don't have the personnel to balance a midfield with Palhinha in it. Respectfully, I think hes pretty limited and I know there are many on here willing to give him player of the season already but I'd be dissapointed if we sign him permanently. We should aspire to be better than that.
 
We don't have the personnel to balance a midfield with Palhinha in it. Respectfully, I think hes pretty limited and I know there are many on here willing to give him player of the season already but I'd be dissapointed if we sign him permanently. We should aspire to be better than that.
This is a horrid take.

Palhina gives us the stability to play two attacking midfielders, which we couldn't without him. He enables creativity by being defensively solid in a way not a single one of our midfielders can do, ala Sandra and wanyama in their days.

Palinha----sarr/bergvall/benta
------simons/madders---

Gray should hope he can learn from palinha and make that spot his in 2-3 years time.
 
This is a horrid take.

Palhina gives us the stability to play two attacking midfielders, which we couldn't without him. He enables creativity by being defensively solid in a way not a single one of our midfielders can do, ala Sandra and wanyama in their days.

Palinha----sarr/bergvall/benta
------simons/madders---

Gray should hope he can learn from palinha and make that spot his in 2-3 years time.
I find your take equally horrid. Accepting mediocrity is the first sign of being happy finishing mid table. Give your head a wobble. Palinha wouldn't even make the bench for any of our perceived rivals but yet his pivotal for us. Nonsense.

Watch the Wolves game again. Their midfield which is bog standard made him look pedestrian. I lost count the number of times he was left chasing shadows. Take the goal out and its a 3/10 performance and thats being generous. Once the goals dry up you will see a player who offers very little.
 
You are not wrong Richard. A broken clock is right twice a day. Yes he scored a great equaliser in the final moments but for large parts of that game he was like a revolving door in the midfield. Wolves players ran round him, through him, past him... his goal contributions will eventually dry up and fans will realise he cannot play in the midfield of a team with aspirations of being top 4/5.
He's very good at doing the thing he's very good at. But there's no way a player so limited on the ball needs to be playing against very weak opposition, alongside another defensive minded midfielder. We're giving teams the run of the midfield when we do this, but it keeps happening.
I can see the merit playing him most games, if Romero steps into midfield in possession because he's an actual good footballer, then that works. But having him and Lolo sitting deep leaves a country mile of space on front of us with nowhere to go. Which is a big factor as to why we're so shite going forward.
 
This is a horrid take.

Palhina gives us the stability to play two attacking midfielders, which we couldn't without him. He enables creativity by being defensively solid in a way not a single one of our midfielders can do, ala Sandra and wanyama in their days.

Palinha----sarr/bergvall/benta
------simons/madders---

Gray should hope he can learn from palinha and make that spot his in 2-3 years time.
We’d be leaking more goals without Palhinha. That’s for sure.

He is one of the first four names on the sheet. Others. being Kudus, VDV and Romero.

Vicario needs to sort his shit out or Kinsky will eat he dinner btw
 
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