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Juande Ramos Dishes Out the Home Truths
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Defoe wants to stay at Tottenham Hotspur
England striker Jermain Defoe wants to remain at Tottenham Hotspur despite being told by manager Juande Ramos he can quit the English Premier League club.
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LONDON (Reuters) - England striker Jermain Defoe wants to remain at Tottenham Hotspur despite
being told by manager Juande Ramos he can quit the English Premier League club.
“The manager has said I can leave if I want but I want to prove him wrong,” Defoe told the Sun newspaper on Tuesday. “I want to stay here.
“He (Ramos) just said, ‘You can leave if you want to’. Yet I have no intentions of leaving this club because I love it here.”
The 25-year-old Defoe, one of four top strikers at Spurs including Robbie Keane, Dimitar Berbatov and Darren Bent, has been unable to claim a regular place in the starting lineup in the last year and a half.
The former West Ham United forward said he could not sign a new, long-term contract with the club unless Ramos started playing him regularly.
“How can I be expected to stay for the next few years if I am going to be on the bench all the time?”, said Defoe.
“I don’t think any player would accept that.”
I already showed you that they didn't win or get to the final in the years that I specified and that English teams were dominating the CL.
That was Commoli's role
It shouldn't be, regardless of who the manager is a quality player is a quality player, we have signed players even with no coach or DOF in the past.
Defoe wants to stay at Tottenham Hotspur
England striker Jermain Defoe wants to remain at Tottenham Hotspur despite being told by manager Juande Ramos he can quit the English Premier League club.
LONDON (Reuters) - England striker Jermain Defoe wants to remain at Tottenham Hotspur despite
being told by manager Juande Ramos he can quit the English Premier League club.
“The manager has said I can leave if I want but I want to prove him wrong,” Defoe told the Sun newspaper on Tuesday. “I want to stay here.
“He (Ramos) just said, ‘You can leave if you want to’. Yet I have no intentions of leaving this club because I love it here.”
The 25-year-old Defoe, one of four top strikers at Spurs including Robbie Keane, Dimitar Berbatov and Darren Bent, has been unable to claim a regular place in the starting lineup in the last year and a half.
The former West Ham United forward said he could not sign a new, long-term contract with the club unless Ramos started playing him regularly.
“How can I be expected to stay for the next few years if I am going to be on the bench all the time?”, said Defoe.
“I don’t think any player would accept that.”
I already showed you that they didn't win or get to the final in the years that I specified and that English teams were dominating the CL.
Okay what are we actually doing here with the Defoe comments, you're just posted something that contradicts your own statement.
He wanted to stay at Spurs, his goal wasn't to move to Portsmouth, the move came out of the blue because they had Redknapp down there and Ramos didn't want him around, why do you think he came back after Ramos got sacked? Think about it...
Christ, you can't be this dense.
We are talking about era's not isolated years, the balance of power doesn't shift every season. So Sevilla might not have won those years but the makeup of the entire league was the strongest, you only had to watch the respective leagues to know this.
It's like saying that the Prem wasn't the strongest league in the world in 2022 because none of our teams won in Europe lol
Your arguments are so basic.
It's there in black and white, his own words, he wasn't prepared to be on the bench, so he didn't sign a new contract. He was never going to be a starter with Berbs and Keane around, they were just too good.Okay what are we actually doing here with the Defoe comments, you're just posted something that contradicts your own statement.
He wanted to stay at Spurs, his goal wasn't to move to Portsmouth, the move came out of the blue because they had Redknapp down there and Ramos didn't want him around, why do you think he came back after Ramos got sacked? Think about it...
Christ, you can't be this dense.
We are talking about era's not isolated years, the balance of power doesn't shift every season. So Sevilla might not have won those years but the makeup of the entire league was the strongest, you only had to watch the respective leagues to know this.
It's like saying that the Prem wasn't the strongest league in the world in 2022 because none of our teams won in Europe lol
Your arguments are so basic.
I'm talking about the time Ramos was at the club, in that period the prem was stronger, again I've shown it.
You seem somewhat confused to what you're actually debating, I said Ramos didn't manage Defoe properly and he left because of him, he was prepared to stick it out at Spurs had Ramos not been there.
I have a better question for you let's reverse the situation, do you think that had Redknapp been in charge of Spurs with Berba/Keane/Defoe, do you think Defoe would leave and go to Portsmouth and play under Ramos or stick around?
It's been well documented that none of the players liked him because he was too strict
Defoe covers it in this podcast from around 56 mins (I've time stamped it for you)
View: https://youtu.be/_rdun9p1bs8?t=3366
So let me get this straight, The Prem was the strongest league in the world according to you in the year that Ramos was our head coach so from October 2007 to October 2008, even though La Liga had been dominating in both competitions and they had the best collective set of teams through play style, tactics and ability, that's laughable. And even if your bizarre logic was true then somehow you'd think that this would have convinced a World Class player like Samuel Eto'o to join spurs, okay then
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I already gave you a quote from him where he said he left because he wasn't getting games. In the podcast he moans about the training under Ramos and opposes him in front of everybody because he shouts at a young player. What was Ramos expected to do when he was being undermind like that? What if a player did that to Ange? Would that be Ok? Redknapp might have given him some more game time to keep him happy but if he just kept him on the bench then Defoe would leave, maybe not to Portsmouth if he has been told about the training methods, but somewhere else.
I already said 2007, 08, 09 3 different English teams got to the final and I documented where they got to the quarter finals and semi finals .So they weren't dominating at time, what you offer is an subjective argument that they la liga is better based on what you watched.So let me get this straight, The Prem was the strongest league in the world according to you in the year that Ramos was our head coach so from October 2007 to October 2008, even though La Liga had been dominating in both competitions and they had the best collective set of teams through play style, tactics and ability, that's laughable. And even if your bizarre logic was true then somehow you'd think that this would have convinced a World Class player like Samuel Eto'o to join spurs, okay then
My argument is we didnt try to get Eto, the fee was affordable because we spent more than that on Pav and Bent, the wages were possible because we were paying Ramos 6 million a year, to as you say copy what he did at Sevilla, we were just content to go for players that weren't good enough, getting Campbell on loan really made us look small time.
I remember that , thrashed Roma 5-1 or 5-0, that's why I don't take too much notice of preseason results, good or bad.
