Fair point and the results against Brighton, Palace, Ipswich were unacceptable but I never expected us to challenge for the title this season and expected an up and down campaign. Liverpool aside no one is tearing it up in the league. We will have to agree to disagree but I can't give up on the season/manager after 11 games into his second season and ignore what we are currently doing in the cup comps. Why would I? Cup exits, a league finish of 6th or lower at the end of the season and I'll be there calling for his head but just not right now!