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Player Mathys Tel

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LuckyMe said:
What would you suggest "Option to buy" means instead then?

If you're correct, then it means exactly nothing, best as I can tell???
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Pre-agreed price, avoiding bidding war with other clubs and hijacked deals. Also everything in place for the transfer to be finalised quickly (no fucking around trying to get a better price right until the deadline of summer transfer window).
 
Spursidol said:
All the terms will have been agreed and I think player has had to sign that - so its a club option only

In practice no point in trying to keep an unhappy player
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Why are we assuming that's the deal that has been agreed? I know that's how such agreements normally work, but surely it could have been written into that deal that the option is dependent upon the player also agreeing to it in the summer (as opposed to just now) - given what we've heard about the player's feelings, that seems likely doesn't it?
 
TOZ said:
With an option to not to sell to us for Bayern. Of a player who doesn't want to leave Bayern and just looking for playing time. Who also has an option to not to stay here beyond the summer. I just can't see a scenario that Tel is both a success and remains our player. No chance.
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I'm not even sure what that first sentence means, but if you mean that Bayern can refuse to sell him to us if he does well in the next 4 months, no they can't - it is our option, if we choose to exercise it, Bayern have to accept it. (Whether or not the player himself has some kind of approval / veto clause that he can exercise in May / June is another matter...)
 
scarletjim said:
Why are we assuming that's the deal that has been agreed? I know that's how such agreements normally work, but surely it could have been written into that deal that the option is dependent upon the player also agreeing to it in the summer (as opposed to just now) - given what we've heard about the player's feelings, that seems likely doesn't it?
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The standard way for an option is to agree all terms, signed by player so its a club option only to exercise

If Spurs don't take up option he has to return to Munich - and they are not going to welcome him back if he has flopped on loan

And Spurs unlikely to exercise option if he flops - only if he succeeds

If he doesn't want to stay at Spurs despite a successful loan period - will Munich want him back ? So he's back to square one and sitting on Munich's bench or being sold !.

Given Levy's deal on Cardosa its perfectly possible that if spurs want to exercise option but Tel isn;t keenm on staying at Spurs, Munich might owe Spurs a fee or something. Who knows !

But we need a player like him atm - so no risk to us, and if we think he isn't staying over next few months we just don't play him - we play Odobert or Moore et al.
 
Spursidol said:
The standard way for an option is to agree all terms, signed by player so its a club option only to exercise

If Spurs don't take up option he has to return to Munich - and they are not going to welcome him back if he has flopped on loan

And Spurs unlikely to exercise option if he flops - only if he succeeds

If he doesn't want to stay at Spurs despite a successful loan period - will Munich want him back ? So he's back to square one and sitting on Munich's bench or being sold !.

Given Levy's deal on Cardosa its perfectly possible that if spurs want to exercise option but Tel isn;t keenm on staying at Spurs, Munich might owe Spurs a fee or something. Who knows !

But we need a player like him atm - so no risk to us, and if we think he isn't staying over next few months we just don't play him - we play Odobert or Moore et al.
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Absolutely agree with all the plus sides of that - it's a great opportunity for both him and us. However if he has insisted on that unusual clause being added (which is possible), then if he does very well with us, he might want to return to Bayern, and they might want him back. Lots of ifs and buts I know, but possible. However hopefully he is great for us and wants to stay, in which case it will have been a stroke of genius having the option added late on in the process. Fingers crossed huh? :)
 
scarletjim said:
Absolutely agree with all the plus sides of that - it's a great opportunity for both him and us. However if he has insisted on that unusual clause being added (which is possible), then if he does very well with us, he might want to return to Bayern, and they might want him back. Lots of ifs and buts I know, but possible. However hopefully he is great for us and wants to stay, in which case it will have been a stroke of genius having the option added late on in the process. Fingers crossed huh? :)
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I think we will know if he wants to stay with us within 3 months or so - and if we do we have agreed fee with Munich

IMO we need to buy another forward in summer even if Tel stays so Lange and co will be looking at all kinds of forward from tomorrow all the way up to the summer transfer window - so it probably doesn;t change that much whether he stays or goes.

Of course best outcome is he excels on loan and wants to stay - and it might help his mate from French u21's, Wilson Odobert is already here to make it an easy start
 
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