• The Fighting Cock is a forum for fans of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club. Here you can discuss Spurs latest matches, our squad, tactics and any transfer news surrounding the club. Registration gives you access to all our forums (including 'Off Topic' discussion) and removes most of the adverts (you can remove them all via an account upgrade). You're here now, you might as well...

    Get involved!

Manager Mauricio Pochettino

Latest Spurs videos from Sky Sports

you seem to have this weird visceral, slightly emotional reaction to anyone that doesn't agree with you. throwing out lines like 'if you've played you'd understand' is churlish - i simply pointed this out and called you stroppy.

you are stroppy,clearly.

the irony of talking about last words while ensuring you get it is also lost on you.

have you met Juicey?
Not lost on me just knew u wouldn't resist. Nothing I've written to I have been stroppy. You're choosing to give it that tone when u read it. Says more about u.

Also I believe I said you'll not you'd. I was simply saying you will understand the point I'm making if you have. Wasn't assuming you hadn't as "you'd" would suggest.

As I said, you resorted to name calling. Yet it's me that's stroppy and I'm lacking self awareness.

Anyway I've made my point. You don't agree. End of. (I'll concede the last word if you want to reply so fill your boots)
 
Not lost on me just knew u wouldn't resist. Nothing I've written to I have been stroppy. You're choosing to give it that tone when u read it. Says more about u.

Also I believe I said you'll not you'd. I was simply saying you will understand the point I'm making if you have. Wasn't assuming you hadn't as "you'd" would suggest.

As I said, you resorted to name calling. Yet it's me that's stroppy and I'm lacking self awareness.

Anyway I've made my point. You don't agree. End of. (I'll concede the last word if you want to reply so fill your boots)
don't get stroppy with me just because no one agrees with you.
 
Read the thread and you'll see that I'm not.

And this is the last time I'll bother pointing it out. Son played WING BACK not FULL BACK big difference in the level of defensive qualities required.

I didn't say that but you give the impression I did because you're replying to my post.
In such circumstances you should be more careful when making a statement that you mean to apply to other people.

Regarding Son playing LWB rather than LB: I've already pointed out that I think this is a nonsense distinction because we switch between the two mid-game. But even if we played Son as a LWB all game long, the position still requires defensive attributes. For example, defending an attacking player in your box without diving in and giving away a stonewall penalty when you had zero chance of getting the ball. Basic stuff that all defenders across all positions at the back have drilled into them but which forwards do not to the same degree. A footballer playing LWB needs to know and have experience of this just as much as a LB does.
 
I didn't say that but you give the impression I did because you're replying to my post.
In such circumstances you should be more careful when making a statement that you mean to apply to other people.

Regarding Son playing LWB rather than LB: I've already pointed out that I think this is a nonsense distinction because we switch between the two mid-game. But even if we played Son as a LWB all game long, the position still requires defensive attributes. For example, defending an attacking player in your box without diving in and giving away a stonewall penalty when you had zero chance of getting the ball. Basic stuff that all defenders across all positions at the back have drilled into them but which forwards do not to the same degree. A footballer playing LWB needs to know and have experience of this just as much as a LB does.
in all his excitement about people not distinguishing between LB and LWB, mockers has overlooked the rather important fact that there's also a massive difference between LWB and forward.

Players rarely make the transition to wing back, and when they do it has to be correctly coached into them (eg Moses) not thrust on them in arguably the most important game he's played in.

add in that Son is actually a forward with zero defensive instinct, not a wide midfielder with some defensive nous.
 
Fuck me... poor old Son... it's like Poch asked the players pre-match for a show of hands at who wanted to play LWB on Saturday, and due to language difficulties, Son only put his hand up 'cos he thought Poch was instigating a new handshake!!

For me, Dier, Jan or Wimmer could, and possibly should have played there... but they didn't... and we lost... annoyingly!
We may have just lost more comprehensively had someone else played there... then there wouldn't be the same argument!

We didn't lose 'cos Son was LWB... we lost 'cos Chelsea are jammy cunts who scored 4 goals with 5 shots... one of which was a once in a lifetime screamer... who the fuck does that?
 
I didn't say that but you give the impression I did because you're replying to my post.
In such circumstances you should be more careful when making a statement that you mean to apply to other people.

Regarding Son playing LWB rather than LB: I've already pointed out that I think this is a nonsense distinction because we switch between the two mid-game. But even if we played Son as a LWB all game long, the position still requires defensive attributes. For example, defending an attacking player in your box without diving in and giving away a stonewall penalty when you had zero chance of getting the ball. Basic stuff that all defenders across all positions at the back have drilled into them but which forwards do not to the same degree. A footballer playing LWB needs to know and have experience of this just as much as a LB does.
He was filling in a position. He's not a LWB so obviously doesn't have all the attributes. Equally a defender playing there wouldn't offer all of the attacking attributes. Poch went with the attacking option instead of defensive. I'll leave it there.

And on the formation switching topic you're repeating something Poch has said about our previous line ups rather than observing it.

We used to line up 4 2 3 1 Dier would drop in to make it 3 at the back with the full backs bombing on. But essentially 4 at the back when defending. More recently we have lined up 3 4 2 1 which is more attacking from the outset but becomes a back 5 when defending meaning in that formation there is less (not zero but less) defensive responsibility on the wing backs.

If we lined up with the former then I'd say it was more of a risk. But that wasn't how we lined up.
 
Can anyone point me to anything to suggest that Davies was injured please?
Nope.
Heung-Min Son has been in fine form recently, scoring five goals in his last four games, but he could well be the sacrificial lamb in Pochettino's team, as Son dropping to the bench would push the precocious Dele Alli further forward, allow Spurs to retain the creative spark of Christian Eriksen from the left and also add muscle to the midfield in the form of a Mousa Dembele and Wanyama partnership.
Elsewhere, Kyle Walker will surely be tasked with stopping Eden Hazard, while Ben Davies will continue at left wing-back in the absence of Rose.
 
You see, this is the bit I don't get.
A lot of people are saying that Poch had no choice because Davies & Rose weren't fit to start.

And yet there is nothing from the club to say that Davies was carrying a knock. Nothing on the internet either.

Now then... if he wasn't carrying a knock or an injury, then can anyone explain the decision to play Son there instead?
 
You see, this is the bit I don't get.
A lot of people are saying that Poch had no choice because Davies & Rose weren't fit to start.

And yet there is nothing from the club to say that Davies was carrying a knock. Nothing on the internet either.

Now then... if he wasn't carrying a knock or an injury, then can anyone explain the decision to play Son there instead?
I did earlier actually in a reply to you.
 
Back
Top