When did the definition of "bottled" get changed to mean " lost a match because the opposition played better"?
I must have missed that memo.
I must have missed that memo.
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Manager Mauricio Pochettino
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Woolwich won the title and we came 4 points off relegation. Nowhere in the cups. Sold Teddy Sheringham. What an absolute bastard of a season that was.Such as relying on a win away (technically) to Wimbledon on the penultimate round of the '98 season to avoid relegation!
Please, don't remind me!
In a competitive match, When one team doesn't play well and not up to their potential then obviously the other team will win and would be the better team.
Rest assured you haven't missed any memo.
ps, we are 4th not miles behind manu 2nd in the pl table.
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I can tell you exactly how it has come to pass, Woolwich Twitter. They have been accused of the biggest bottlers in World Football, both as fans and Club. It got to them so much having their mentality questioned that they sort to "pass it along" and with the help of our complicit fanbase it's fair to say they can claim mission accomplished.
Seriously why open up ourselves with this crap? Ferguson broke the Rangers/Celtic duopoly in Scotland won 3 titles and 4 Scottish cups and beat Real Madrid in the final of the cup winners cup with fucking Aberdeen. The guy was clearly successful and clearly a winner before joining United. Poch hasn’t won anything in any of his career and yet people think it is good idea to reference him against the games greatest ever manager. Asking for it posting that on social media.
Should really be the Dictionary definition of bottlers.
Unbelievable that Alan Shearer has the nerve to say anything really given his ties to that club.
That may be so but he was still a Mark Robins goal away from being sacked...
Spot on mate. I remember. In particular, I remember when Charlton were better than us, so much so that they finished 7 places above us when we finished in 14th. 14th place for fuck sake. People's attitude on here reminds me of Charlton fans a bit actually, When they had Alan Curbishley, he was performing miracles with what he had but the fans had unrealistic expectations and wanted him replaced. They plummeted after that. Not saying the situation is exactly the same, but people need to be patient and grateful for how good a manager we have, not moaning about him, the grass in not always greener. I find Poch frustrating but there is no doubt we have progressed under him, so I would never want him out. And even if we did not progress, I'd have to question whether I could realistically expect more.
Of course he is frustrating at times, he's human. All humans have their flaws and their perks. Sadly people (myself included most likely a couple of times) are reactionary with their critique rather than think things through properly. As we see all the time in our match threads in regard to a player. A member can write that Davinson is garbage on one page and three pages later wax lyrically about Davinson because of a block he made.
Poch was always going to hit a roadblock with his philosophy and system. But it has taken us this far and that is great. Now we need to see how he gets around/over this current bump in the road. And give him time to do that. As long as he has the locker room and the faith of the chairman we are fine. We are in a fine position as a club and Poch has been a big contributing force in that.
If you want to critique the manager that is fine, but it shouldn't mean he should be sacked because we happened to lose a cup semi final to a manager who is a veritable master at knock out tournaments
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and all the while Real Madrid on course for a third successive Champions League win still brief the press night and day that they want him as manager asap
Not saying we should sack Poch, but you can say things like that for almost every manager in recen history. Before Jol we were much worse, so sacking Jol was a risk, sacking Harry was a risk, even sacking AVB was a risk, even sacking Tim with his ppg! was a risk.
We wouldnt get Poch if we hadnt sacked Harry and Jol. So its not the end of the world if we sacked Poch, but we arent in a position where we need to consider that as an option. What we really need is to spend on the team. Need a good second striker who would be good enough for us to rest Harry more often, a DM that can pass to replace Dier, a first choice rightback as both Trips and Aurier are not quite first 11 material and a Toby replacement.
Yes, that wasn't a risk at all but a goddamn necessity.
Some 'fans' on here have short fucking memories.
With that I cannot agree.
We were on top of the game in first 25 minutes and could have taken 2:0 advantage easily.
Drawing goal and specially the 2:1 goal shook us, and our attacking play was shaky apart from some Eriksen sole attempts. In my view ManU did not play perfectly, or even very well.
In my view, there are different scenarios - for example if we would have had game such as the 1st ManCity defeat happening in the SF - oppo played exeptionally well, controlled the game, basically smashed us and did not give us any room. In such case, we were just outplayed.
On Saturday ManU did not do that, first of all they started really shaky, we did not capitalize enough from there. SECOND GOAL WAS OUR OWN WRONGDOING (!) not some super-brilliant play from ManU and well their 2nd goal was well executed counter-attack, I agree, but our response was slow and predictable. All those things combined, I would say that oppo team did not play us out of the park, it was more of our perfomance (not scoring 2nd, conciding unneccesary goal, not pressing and playing with urgency after falling behind).
Yes Timmy was a nutcase. But we could have ended up with Ramos v2.0 . Point was sacking poch wouldnt even come close to ruining the club.
The one mystery that surrounds Tim Sherwood is why West Ham have never appointed him.........they'd be perfect together
Exactly the right blend of over confidence, banter and terrible decision making
Exactly the right blend of over confidence, banter and terrible decision making
Sherwood stopped us getting into a relegation scrap, had a better win ratio than AVB, took us to a 6th place finish and gave Kane his chance rather than persisting with Soldado as AVB (and many here preferred).
Big mouth, not good enough for the long haul etc etc etc, but he did a decent job that season and left the team in fairly healthy shape for Poch.
People might not like him and thats fine, but that doesnt run parallel with "he was shit".
Life doesnt work like that.
Big mouth, not good enough for the long haul etc etc etc, but he did a decent job that season and left the team in fairly healthy shape for Poch.
People might not like him and thats fine, but that doesnt run parallel with "he was shit".
Life doesnt work like that.