That might be the whole point of supporting a team like Spurs and would you have it any other way anyway?I feel so empty and numb today , this team will be the death of me one day!
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Manager Mauricio Pochettino
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I wish it was the wrong word mate. Would it be any better though if starting unfit Kane was totally on his own call? Again??
We still lose and Kane doesn’t start “how could he not start our star player?”
I went to bed, didn't want tear up in front of my dad. It was horrible. Seeing tweets from players and reaction from the fans made me feel so much better. This is just a start. Juventus lost 5 finals. Atletico lost two, Liverpool lost 3. We'll be here again.
Hindsight is 20:20 vision
Poch has earned our trust to make that call either way based on what he's seeing in training and his tactics for the game.
The problem is, we all have two eyes and could see it wasn't working out on the day, and not taking him off at the hour mark was a mistake, IMO.
exactly how I feel today. Can't bear company today, really not looking forward to this week at all!I feel so empty and numb today , this team will be the death of me one day!
I’d have won yesterday if possible actually
But that’s just me
This argument is doing the rounds and it makes no sense.
Kane did start. He didn’t play well. He wasn’t subbed. We lost.
The manager got it wrong.
Here is a basic example of what you are saying.
If we sign no one this year, and finish 12th it’s ok because we could have signed some players and still finished 12th.
Hindsight eh!!
What in the actual fuck... come on
Ahhhh so now it makes no sense all of a sudden?
What you said doesn’t sammy. Kane starting or not the final is not the same as not signing players. Do you think In the same situation the dippers wouldn’t start salah?
It’s about the logic behind it mate.
You are saying that starting Kane was not a mistake because we might have lost if Moura started.
It’s complete nonsense
So is arguing that you could have expected a different or better result with Moura. Today is a field day for the people who gloat in "could've", "would've" and "should've".
Dele and Eriksen were arguably worse so not sure how Moura would have suddenly shined when the others were constantly failing on their first-touch and the passing was atrocious at times.
We had better results with Moura and not Kane though, so there lies the assumption that an in form Moura, who scored a hat trick in the semi, and saved our fucking arses against PSV and Barca, is a better option than a 20% Kane who hadnt played a game of football since the City first leg
I don't believe that we had a 20% Kane, Poch wouldn't play him if that were the case. Why aren't you listing all of the times that Kane has saved our ass over the years, or the times when Moura played and was invisible? It seems awful selective to only focus on these specific instances.
Moura has a total of 15 goals in 48 appearance for us. Kane has 164 in 253.
Overall, I get the point but assumes that all things are equal otherwise. There are a million different factors that can make the difference, to just assume that because he did "x" against a certain team that he can repeat it against any opponent, on any day, in any location and on any stage. That is poor logic as well.
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Starting Kane yesterday might have been a politically correct move but was a wrong move as lots of people had feared. It costed the club the CL final. I guess it will be one long dribbling summer of the accepting vs denying.
As we cannot see into alternate dimensions we will never know whether leaving Kane on the bench would have produced a different result. Pointless to even think about it.
Klopp gambled on Firmino’s fitness and he was shite and dragged off after 55 minutes, because they won that serious error is not being talked about. Our defensive gaffes were much more decisive than the decision to start Kane. They allowed Liverpool to turtle their way to the trophy before we could even start playing.