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Manager Mauricio Pochettino

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Herclueless said:
I'm not flummoxed in the least, I don't think it was part of any elaborate game at all, him going to Chelsea demonstrates perfectly clearly that his relationship with Spurs and our fans isn't anything like the love affair that many are desperate for it to be.

If it was him playing the media for a higher purpose, then he was fucking garbage at it and should've dropped it as soon as it became obvious it wasn't achieving anything and tried a different approach.

Conte did it, didn't get what he wanted and had the decency to go nuclear and get out, Poch was happy to pocket a pay rise...
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Poch earned every penny he was remunerated with by Levy and ENIC.

Has Levy earned his own salary since he sacked Poch?
 
bus-conductor said:
It’s getting very shrill in here.

I am genuinely ok for Poch to Chelsea. Not just because shit like that rarely gets me bent out of shape (the notion of a player or coach owing us loyalty beyond his contract with us), I wouldn’t care if he went to Woolwich.

But mostly because although I think he’s a good coach, I didn’t think he was the fucking Messiah.

I really loved the first 2 1/2 years, young players who weren’t world class but playing with intensity, was a couple of my favourite handful of seasons in the 50 I’ve been supporting spurs. So don’t begrudge whatever he does next.

But even in the good years there were stupid mistakes that cost us in big moments. And the last 2 years was garbage. Even if we believe the notion that nothing was his fault and everything was Levy’s, Poch played a bad hand very badly.

Kept picking “experienced” dildos that were completely incompatible with his ethos, instead of going back to young legs who’d give him some vim back, made poor use of resources. People whine about Levy not selling, but Poch was the one who got his knickers in a twist about selling shitcunts like Alli, Rose and Dier for huge fees, when the likes of Utd would have been stupid enough to pay.

Levy had fuck all to do with Son being played at LWB in a semi final, Townsend in a final, “paid to train but not play” Sissoko every week for two years, including in a CL final in a midfield two against one of the most efficient midfield 3’s in Europe.

He did some great things and he did some shit things.

There’s some great ingredients at Chelsea now that may well suit him, lots of young legs with energy, a deluxe Alli in Havertz, a fabulous RB, the makings of a midfield and Nkunku arriving, who will be the answer to a lot of Chelsea’s scoring issues. He’ll also get a window before he starts and pre season.

I fully expect Chelsea to be much better next season, but I would if Tuchel or Potter had stayed and been given the same window and pre season to figure out the mess.
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This 100%

I'd just caveat that with the observation that, whilst James is a great wingback (probably in the top 5 in the World), his hamstrings appear to made out of wet tissue paper.

Poch may be a wingback whisperer, but I doubt he'll be able to turn wet tissue paper into tungsten, so James is likely to remain unreliable.
 
bus-conductor said:
It’s getting very shrill in here.

I am genuinely ok for Poch to Chelsea. Not just because shit like that rarely gets me bent out of shape (the notion of a player or coach owing us loyalty beyond his contract with us), I wouldn’t care if he went to Woolwich.

But mostly because although I think he’s a good coach, I didn’t think he was the fucking Messiah.

I really loved the first 2 1/2 years, young players who weren’t world class but playing with intensity, was a couple of my favourite handful of seasons in the 50 I’ve been supporting spurs. So don’t begrudge whatever he does next.

But even in the good years there were stupid mistakes that cost us in big moments. And the last 2 years was garbage. Even if we believe the notion that nothing was his fault and everything was Levy’s, Poch played a bad hand very badly.

Kept picking “experienced” dildos that were completely incompatible with his ethos, instead of going back to young legs who’d give him some vim back, made poor use of resources. People whine about Levy not selling, but Poch was the one who got his knickers in a twist about selling shitcunts like Alli, Rose and Dier for huge fees, when the likes of Utd would have been stupid enough to pay.

Levy had fuck all to do with Son being played at LWB in a semi final, Townsend in a final, “paid to train but not play” Sissoko every week for two years, including in a CL final in a midfield two against one of the most efficient midfield 3’s in Europe.

He did some great things and he did some shit things.

There’s some great ingredients at Chelsea now that may well suit him, lots of young legs with energy, a deluxe Alli in Havertz, a fabulous RB, the makings of a midfield and Nkunku arriving, who will be the answer to a lot of Chelsea’s scoring issues. He’ll also get a window before he starts and pre season.

I fully expect Chelsea to be much better next season, but I would if Tuchel or Potter had stayed and been given the same window and pre season to figure out the mess.
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BC moonwalking back the previous BC narratives...I see you. And I see that you see the bolded part of your response so you're getting out ahead of the inevitable. I see you.
 
Kosher Kid said:
Poch earned every penny he was remunerated with by Levy and ENIC.

Has Levy earned his own salary since he sacked Poch?
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Levy can fuck off, that cunt has nothing to do with my thoughts and opinions on Poch...

My point on Poch is that he wasn't using some will he/won't he narrative to bend the board to his will of investing in the playing squad, which I think is what some are trying to suggest.
 
Herclueless said:
Levy can fuck off, that cunt has nothing to do with my thoughts and opinions on Poch...

My point on Poch is that he wasn't using some will he/won't he narrative to bend the board to his will of investing in the playing squad, which I think is what some are trying to suggest.
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So, similarly, Conte wasn't trying to hold Levy's feet to the fire with the delaying tactics on a contract? Do you understand leverage?
 
Good luck Poch. Well by good luck I hope you get them relegated.

But no hard feelings for joining Chelsea. It's not Woolwich. And never would have been. You kept your word on that.

Think you will find the Chelsea fans very, very different to us but as the great and sage Dr Alban said.

Its your life.
 
todd1882 said:
So, similarly, Conte wasn't trying to hold Levy's feet to the fire with the delaying tactics on a contract? Do you understand leverage?
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I believe the notion that Conte might have been trying to use it as leverage, because when it didn't work he blew his top and fucked off. When Poch was apparently doing it and got nowhere, he signed a new contract...

So I'm more inclined to believe that one was trying to leverage the situation to benefit the club than the other, the one that got angry and flounced when it didn't work.

You can keep trying to insinuate that I don't understand what leverage is if you like, I don't think it's fooling anyone personally.
 
Herclueless said:
I believe the notion that Conte might have been trying to use it as leverage, because when it didn't work he blew his top and fucked off. When Poch was apparently doing it and got nowhere, he signed a new contract...

So I'm more inclined to believe that one was trying to leverage the situation to benefit the club than the other, the one that got angry and flounced when it didn't work.

You can keep trying to insinuate that I don't understand what leverage is if you like, I don't think it's fooling anyone personally.
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Ok, man, we're done on this. But for the record I didn't insinuate anything, I outright asked you because you've demonstrated such a tenuous grasp of such things.
 
Regarding Poch to Chelsea: Chelsea tho?

I mean, I know we break managers but their reputation for chewing them up and spitting them out even if they win trophies is common knowledge.

He can’t be that desperate surely?

He’s definitely let it be known to Levy (are we calling him Dan now? No, good) at every opportunity that he’s available but there are plenty of other clubs.

Could be he’s either trying to make levy jealous/ force his hand or he’s going the ex Chelsea manager to spurs route.
 
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