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Manager Mauricio Pochettino
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Because you don't like it? An armband is irrelevant. Is the person actually displaying leadership qualities or not? If so, they're a leader, armband or not. Calling someone a captain doesn't make them a leader.
Why, it hurts your feelings? 3 years ago, Adebayor was good. Now he isn't. He's unable to function in the press like Pochettino requires, he doesn't shoot enough, or from decent enough locations to be a viable striker any more.
He got old. This happens.
I think its very important to name a captain that you believe in. I respect that you disagree, so might as well leave that one there
I respectfully disagree, and no Im not hurt that you dont rate adebayor
Think it’s more than the manager though, it's Levy, it's the club itself. As I said before we have an idealist like Guardiola therefore plan B will always be similar to plan A because the patterns and style of can't be easily switched.
Redknapp was Mr flexable which meant he was much more able to simply switch styles depending on the opposition. With Poch it's very much more about imposing or trying to impose our style. From what I have read Levy has always wanted to have a 'philosophy' at the club, a style of play built in, he favours the idealist over the pragmatist.
With Poch it seems to be able developing the team, bringing through young players and in the long term perfecting the system even if in the short term it causes issues (i.e. not have suitable players). I do find it amusing that we have switched back and forth between old fashioned pragmatists like Redknapp and Sherwood and system orientated managers like AVB and Poch, probably why our team doesn't always look like it fits together.
It's fairly easy to be flexible when there's literally no system. Redknapp barely had a plan "A" at times.
Perhaps then again if I was to rate our managers I would have Redknapp and Poch above Sherwood and AVB.
I enjoyed the years we had under Redknapp and I have enjoyed it this season with Poch with all it's ups and downs. Sherwood was always just a cover teacher with a big mouth and Villa is the right place for him to learn and AVB was quite frankly awful, never been so depressed by the brand of 'football' he gave us.
When we get to the end of the season we will have achieved a CC final defeat.
Redknapp aslo got that only he didnt have a pre season and he joined us in November.
In his first full season he got 4th, in his second he got 5th and CL quarters. Then 4th again.
I think Id take that sytem.
Not sure I can agree with that, Bale was not a World Class player under Redknapp, he produced some amazing performances like Inter Milan but would be very quiet in many games, he didn't develop world class consistancy until AVB, infact really until the last 6 months of Bale's stay with us.
Modric was World Class under Redknapp IMO and so was King although King was injured half the time. Redknapp had Modric at his best but not Bale at his best, for me Redknapp's secret was just to play a simple compact side that could hit fast and hard, a sort of more basic form of how Brendan Rogers operated last season.
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No you are mixing up AVB and his use of Bale. You clearly didnt watch us under Harry.
Under Redknapp we played as a team.
Shameful when Spurs fans belittle what this club achieved against all the odds back then. Id expect that from gooners to be honest. That first 4th season run in was a phenominal team effort.
I think that we can chalk that up to serendipity; the right players, at the right time, with a manager who's particular philosophy worked at the time and with those particular players. Throw this lot of players into that system at that point of time and things would have likely turned out differently.
Just keep in mind that I wasn't hating on Redknapp with that specific comment, but his system was not having a set system. That particular group worked best in that style and Harry had never had success like that before or since either.
lol ok Sammy old fella
You make it sound like pure luck
I think it's hard to judge Harry on before or since in relation to us simply because we were by far the biggest club he managed. He took West Ham to 5th on no money and did a good job with Pompey, his career prior to QPR was generally to achieve above expectation for that club. Good in the transfer market normally, good motivator and generally practical with his tactics.
Not a great but certainly not a failure despite the QPR blemish on his record. Remember he was pretty much the public's choice for England manager and I remember the disapointment a lot of people had when Hodgson was annonnced. I know he certainly has personality flaws and I can understand why some people are not keen on him, he's a had a good career on the whole but he's past it, move on really.
No...that's just your inclination to assume that everyone has boiled everything down to the most clueless, base assumptions because it is easier to argue against.
What I specifically said is that the season you were talking about really benefited from a few things just clicking for us, the team, the player mix, the coach, everything. We had a few special players on that team, a few players who played a very specific and useful role at times, a manager who happened to have the right attitude and managerial style, and it all worked for us. I don't believe in luck, but I do believe that it was simply the right combination at that moment in time and a lot of factors all pulling together in the same direction.
None of the players on that team, aside from Modric and Bale, have been able to match anything close to what we did that season, and the same goes for Redknapp. It was serendipity that brought them all together at that time, a lot of hard work, and a synergy that worked out to our benefit. We can't go so far as to say that it was dumb luck, but we can't overstate that it was all done by the genius of Harry Redknapp either.
You seem to overlook the fact it was pretty much the same team that was heading towards the championship......so while your melting pot of factors theory is all good and well, I just give credit where its due and say the manager got the best of his best players, but also got the best out of his worst players and had us playing some really good football.
Of course it wasnt all Redknapp. No manager can take all the credit, its a team effort.
When someone talks about SAF I dont hear them say "he done great....but of course you thank Beckham and Giggs too. And The board.And the coaches. And the training methods. And the era. And the synergy. It all made a soup of success"