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Player Micky van de Ven

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It’s Angeball, high line and he’s expected to belt back at full speed because of opponents putting the ball into space behind our defence. Normal defence and he would not have the problem as much.

It doesn't work like that.....unless the defence plays deep for the whole 90 plus minutes of a game at some point the defence will push up, there will be space behind and the defenders will have to cover it.

Imo hamstring problems are the worst type of injuries for footballers. Once they start recurring it becomes not only a physical issue but a mental one too. The player will always be fearful of going full throttle when sprinting
 


Fucking genius throwing both him and Romero right in again. Fucking GENIUS.


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How does any Premier League club, let alone one which pretends to be a big one, end up in a situation where we have one solitary centre back?

I don't know if it's Ange or if the medical team have cleared him to play or what but someone's fucked up seriously here
 
Fucking genius throwing both him and Romero right in again. Fucking GENIUS.


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How does any Premier League club, let alone one which pretends to be a big one, end up in a situation where we have one solitary centre back?

I don't know if it's Ange or if the medical team have cleared him to play or what but someone's fucked up seriously here
I feel like we should have had another CB in the squad but then we couldn’t even register Spence for EL, all this HG quota is confusing tbf!
Any way I agree we need another CB signed on 1st January but we also need to look at why we are getting so many injured players - maybe Ange high octane football and training can’t work as is in the PL , surely though we monitor our players through games and training and we should be tweaking if needed , we aren’t even through the busy festive period yet and we are literally walking wounded, I get some injuries can’t be avoided and it’s just bad luck but we was saying the same last season
 
I feel like we should have had another CB in the squad but then we couldn’t even register Spence for EL, all this HG quota is confusing tbf!
Any way I agree we need another CB signed on 1st January but we also need to look at why we are getting so many injured players - maybe Ange high octane football and training can’t work as is in the PL , surely though we monitor our players through games and training and we should be tweaking if needed , we aren’t even through the busy festive period yet and we are literally walking wounded, I get some injuries can’t be avoided and it’s just bad luck but we was saying the same last season
Well yeah. We're thin on the ground as it is. Which is what caused Ange to roll the dice on both of them which has backfired spectacularly.

It's just a shitshow all round.
 
He and Romero only played because Ange is scared he’s losing his job. No other reason both of them were risked to play.

Whilst I know next to nothing about modern football tactics; I think there’s an argument to be made that he’s currently our most “ important “ player. Which means we need him to play : But also need to take very good care of him and let him rehabilitate to a point he’s not going off 79 mins into his return. With the potential for missing even further games .

That’s the paradox.
 
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That is all on Ange.

You absolutely know that the medical team said it would be a risk and despite the player wanting to play, Ange gambled because he was under pressure and it's compeltely fucked us.

The usless fk
 
Very disappointing and tbh can’t just be bad luck or a coincidence.


The decision to play VDV and Romero on Sunday has turned out to have backfired massively and cost us the next 3-6 weeks..


Big big games vs rangers and man united in the cup.

Annoying
 
Fucking genius throwing both him and Romero right in again. Fucking GENIUS.


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How does any Premier League club, let alone one which pretends to be a big one, end up in a situation where we have one solitary centre back?

I don't know if it's Ange or if the medical team have cleared him to play or what but someone's fucked up seriously here
I do think that the ball has to land on Ange and Micky here. Managers seem to have the authority to overrule team doctors/medical teams.

Like when Hugo and Poch overruled the doctor to let Hugo play on despite having a concussion as it turned out (I think that was during Poch, possibly Sherwood if it was before him). And Mourinho had multiple bust ups with the doctors at Chelsea in regards to players being ready or not to play.
 
Moronic management and actually really dangerous to the careers of these players. I wouldn't want to hang around if I thought a coach was endangering my future as a player.

Yeah, I get it. The alternatives are poor. The situation is dire. But you can't risk the health of players and rush them back to win a few points. Ultimately we haven't even done that, we've lost anyway and injured them some more.

Speaks to how desperate Ange is really.
 
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