Sorry but really struggling to see how we can blame VDV being injury prone on Ange. He pulled his hammy against City back in October in a cup game (because we actually went strong in the cups for once! Imagine the uproar if we rested our first team players that day). After 2 months out he came back against Chelsea and pulled his hammy again on 75 mins... Rumours are his was meant to be subbed on 70 so you can blame Ange for going 5 mins over the medical advice. This is about all you can blame Ange for! VDV was out for another month before returning to training in early January. He trained for almost 2 full weeks before playing 45 mins in the Europa league. He was not rushed back into this game, this was to build up match fitness after 2 weeks training. He then pulled up in training on Saturday and hasn't been seen since! VDV is the problem not Ange!
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To you, Ange seem like Jesus. Nothing is his fault right? lol
Was it a rumour or medical advice?
Is Ange reponsible for training?
Is Ange responsible for tactics and player roles during games?
Just saying it's worth considering whether any of these factors are relevant.
Not true. Just find it crazy how people try to blame every thing on him like the example I explained in detail
Well none of us know what the exact medical advice was but the rumours are he was told to sub him before 70 mins and didn't so that is on Ange. At 2-2 in a derby with Romero already gone off you can probably understand why emotion took over!
Sure look at all the comments on here on Sunday going crazy when he subbed Maddison off on the hour even though that was also medical advice. Its very easy to find a way to blame Ange for anything if you choose to.
Well then, he shouldn't say things like "I usually win trophies in my second season mate" Cocky in interviews being sensitive as hell. Fast forward we are fighting at the bottom of the table.... both cups gone. Everythings riding on Europa which we probably wont win......
His head got too big winning in low leagues like SPL and the J League. Even Brendan Rogers looks like Pep in fucking Celtic and he led Leicester to the EFL...
If you talk the talk, you better walk the walk or you are going to get it from the fanbase. Idc who you are.
I don’t actually blame him for players getting injured. Shit happens.
But the way he’s coped and bitched about those injuries is a problem. He’s still been fielding sides full of international players. Teams with weaker squads who’ve also had injuries have outperformed us.
And when we had full strength sides we were still tactically poor and outplayed. That’s on him.
The injuries are a bit of a red herring, he’s looked like a very average coach with or without them.
You must have comprehension issues Donald. I did not 'blame' VDV injury in that post on anyone. You have ridden to the wrong rescue. Quick there's a cat in tree though. I commented o(albeit sarcastically) on the communication. Which I don't belive ( not sure why auto corrects the word disembling ? Odd )
But thank you for your thoughts unsolicited on what Ange can and can't be blamed for it was intresting to hear what you think. If you want to join me in the chat about why the club are being evasive about the nature of his current problem you have till 23:30 GMT
Being called “Don Pedro” doesn’t mean his name is Donald. Don is like Mr in Spanish and Italian.
Ie Don Corleone also wasn’t called Donald.
No - he's just not an hysterical child looking for scapegoats to hang
While to you, everything is.
More or less, Don Ricardo, the technical term is an "honorific", a word that shows respect. It should only used with given names, señor going before a surname (and thus the equivalent Mr).
Doña is the female form, binary gender fans.
Exactly, Don Guillermo
No, I have been very clear and calling out just about everyone this season...if you actually read any of them.
We are fighting at the bottom of the table... I think it's you and some others that need a reality check. You guys have been neutered by Levy to appreciate mediocrity. Wake up.
Shit, when did they reduce the league to 12 teams??......
Calm down Rooster man
We're 12th
If we can get up another two places we’ll be fighting at the top of the table.