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Player Micky van de Ven

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Phomesy said:
No.

I'm Frank in.

The rest of your post is panicked fucking drivel because you don't ever bother to read or comprehend what people actually say/write as opposed to the febrile shit your deranged mind makes up.

If you'd bothered to comprehend anything I've said in the last year you'd know I have no problem with Ange being sacked; no problem with Frank being hired and more than most have warned about the difficulties Frank (or any new manager) will have to face.

And I've been proved right over and over and over again.

The difference between us is that I celebrate the Ange years despite all the flaws.

And because I can do that, I've completely moved on. Unlike fucking Derangers.
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What makes you think I'm going to remember anything you said for the past year? (You are not that special)

Oh you have been right? oh really... genius!!!! clap* clap* (Want a cookie? I think most people will laugh at you)

If you've completely moved on then why you keep mentioning the last year?! lmao!!!:frankthink:
 
bonaspur23 said:
Maybe. And he is certainly the flashiest CB out there because of the pace.

He's yet to play on a dominant defensive team, though. I realize one player can only do so much, but the most important thing for a CB is defending. And his defending is ok, but not elite.

I do think he'd be immense on teams that want to dominate with press and a high line. His pace allows the rest of the team to press with less risk because he basically nullifies any threats in behind, no matter how fast the opponent is.
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I think he tries to do too much in our line of defense.
 
Rooster the 2nd said:
What makes you think I'm going to remember anything you said for the past year? (You are not that special)

Oh you have been right? oh really... genius!!!! clap* clap* (Want a cookie? I think most people will laugh at you)

If you've completely moved on then why you keep mentioning the last year?! lmao!!!:frankthink:
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Firstly: I accept your apology for completely misrepresenting everything I say. It was very gracious of you to offer that apology and I look forward to you never doing so again.

Secondly: are you seriously asking why I "keep mentioning" the circumstances by which we happened to win our first European Trophy in 40 years? Is it that I'm "approving" of that trophy that irks you?

Like... take a step backwards for just a second and ask yourself why you are getting angry at Spurs fans for being happy that we won a European Trophy and highlighting our senior players and their happiness at the victory?

Like... don't you think that's just a little bit odd of you?
 
That whole video is absolutely wild. Lot of quite interesting stuff, but more than anything if you read between all of it the one absolute certainty is Frank has got zero chance of making it work here. It gives context to everything we've seen from VDV this season.
 
Streaky Bacon said:
That whole video is absolutely wild. Lot of quite interesting stuff, but more than anything if you read between all of it the one absolute certainty is Frank has got zero chance of making it work here. It gives context to everything we've seen from VDV this season.
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Yeah... I wrote this in the Frank thread before the interview came out:

Phomesy said:
The problem Frank has (and always did have) is that's he sees himself as being hired to take over a 17th placed team - a team he finished above with Brentford (albeit having lost twice to that same shit Spurs side). So from his perspective he holds a lot of moral weight.

However, the core playing group of Vic, Cuti, VDV, Udogie, and even Madders/Solanke/Kulu to an extent almost certainly view themselves as European Trophy winners who made gold out of an utter shit show of a season - a shit show of a league season that they don't perceive as being their fault as they were injured for most of it.

When you remember that Cuti and VDV only started 2 league games in the entirety of the post Xmas season - but started every single EL game from March onward - you see the size of the problem Frank has. His job is to tell them they're shit and need to work with him to be not shit. They see themselves as winners being talked down to by some no mark they regularly beat when they played together.

So every time Frank mentions how shit we were last season it means nothing to those guys because they just don't see themselves as responsible for the league shit show.

It's a fucking recipe for disaster and, honestly, I feel for Frank because he was hamstrung before he even came in.

But I don't see it working out.
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And VDV has pretty much confirmed it.

Feel for Frank. Impossible position really.

On the plus IF he does survive and get us back on track it will show incredible levels of managerial leadership.
 
Phomesy said:
Firstly: I accept your apology for completely misrepresenting everything I say. It was very gracious of you to offer that apology and I look forward to you never doing so again.

Secondly: are you seriously asking why I "keep mentioning" the circumstances by which we happened to win our first European Trophy in 40 years? Is it that I'm "approving" of that trophy that irks you?

Like... take a step backwards for just a second and ask yourself why you are getting angry at Spurs fans for being happy that we won a European Trophy and highlighting our senior players and their happiness at the victory?

Like... don't you think that's just a little bit odd of you?
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1. You are delusional
2.Kind of stupid.
3.You don't know what you even posted.

Can't beat stupid like you.
 
Rooster the 2nd said:
1. You are delusional
2.Kind of stupid.
3.You don't know what you even posted.

Can't beat stupid like you.
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I know you're a little embarrassed - and therefore angry - that you made a massive basic comprehension error (thinking I was referring to Frank as a "flawed manager" when I was clearly referring to Ange); and then your Derangement made you assume I was Frank Out when I am not.

But doubling down like this just makes you look weak. You won't explain yourself because you can't explain yourself. You made a massive error and now you're ashamed and that's made you petty.

Good luck to you.
 
Phomesy said:
I know you're a little embarrassed - and therefore angry - that you made a massive basic comprehension error (thinking I was referring to Frank as a "flawed manager" when I was clearly referring to Ange); and then your Derangement made you assume I was Frank Out when I am not.

But doubling down like this just makes you look weak. You won't explain yourself because you can't explain yourself. You made a massive error and now you're ashamed and that's made you petty.

Good luck to you.
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Why does this kid thinks he is embarrassing someone? lol. Seems like you lack some common sense little kid.
It shows your immaturity. Look at your little toddler posts. Go back to your mom and dad and ask them. Why was you were born so stupid? :frankthink:
 
Anyway... For the less drunk and/or childishly weirdly hostile fans...

This is the link to the full Overlap interview:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLDOKpEk13c&t=2587s

The bit at 38 minutes when he talks about Ange promising to win trophies with him and that look in Mickey's eyes when he remembers that conversation and the fact that it came true... Bottle that and inject it into every Spurs fan and player before every match.

But no doubt it makes Frank's job so much harder - having to be "the next guy". Hopefully he can get through this tough period and get us going. Because if he does - he'll get the same buy in for sure.
 
Congrats Micky. The Guardian has you down as the 96th best footballer on the planet. The only Spurs player to make the list.

The gooners almost have their whole first eleven in there. Nice one ENIC!
 
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