• The Fighting Cock is a forum for fans of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club. Here you can discuss Spurs latest matches, our squad, tactics and any transfer news surrounding the club. Registration gives you access to all our forums (including 'Off Topic' discussion) and removes most of the adverts (you can remove them all via an account upgrade). You're here now, you might as well...

    Get involved!

Player Morgan Gibbs-White

Latest Spurs videos from Sky Sports

Status
Not open for further replies.
spids said:
The legal stuff is a smokescreen and they know it. What is happening is their owner, who is a childish megalomaniac, is refusing to sell him despite the clause. It is up to Gibbs-White to initiate a legal process for breach of contract. That process will not complete in this window. Their owner is banking on Gibbs-White folding, or us moving on to another target. We can do nothing, it has to be Gibbs-White. He needs to refuse to train and start legal proceedings and stay away from Forest. Every day he turns up and trains or pulls on their shirt, the Forest owner's position strengthens.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I don't see it that way at all. The release clause has been met and Forest are clearly just holding up the final piece of paperwork. The longer this drags on the more likely they are to open themselves up for their own legal battle. Spurs, MGW and his agency could all potentially sue Forest for breaching his contract/clause by refusing to let him go in a timely manner.

My guess is that MGW has been advised to act as a complete professional and give the Forest owner nothing to use against him. In the meantime, Spurs and his agents will start to file their own legal complaint if they are so convinced they've done nothing wrong. The spurs position seems to be that they've done nothing wrong and there is no way they'd have any way of proving it anyway. I'm not sure if his own agent will be as confident.
 

Morgan Anthony Gibbs-White OF ENGLAND!!

I don't agree at all with folk saying let him rot in the reserves. Football is an emotive thing but to me it just doesn't make logical sense. What I can see happening is that it will get ruled that the NDA has been breached ruling the release clause null and void. I don't think Spurs will then...
www.forestforum.co.uk www.forestforum.co.uk

Some interesting takes in here. Also showing that some Notts Forrest fans are in here reading this stuff ....... That's how we spell it properly Notts Forrest isn't it??
 
Last edited:
Don Pedro said:
I don't see it that way at all. The release clause has been met and Forest are clearly just holding up the final piece of paperwork. The longer this drags on the more likely they are to open themselves up for their own legal battle. Spurs, MGW and his agency could all potentially sue Forest for breaching his contract/clause by refusing to let him go in a timely manner.

My guess is that MGW has been advised to act as a complete professional and give the Forest owner nothing to use against him. In the meantime, Spurs and his agents will start to file their own legal complaint if they are so convinced they've done nothing wrong. The spurs position seems to be that they've done nothing wrong and there is no way they'd have any way of proving it anyway. I'm not sure if his own agent will be as confident.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
You are actually agreeing with me other than how MGW should behave. Spurs cannot take them to court - it has to be the player. This is all on Gibbs-White. If the player does not force this he won’t get the move. We can only encourage him. Marinakis can just refuse to talk to us and we cannot do anything.
 
FOK said:
‘The Right price’ lol


View: https://x.com/hotspurrelated/status/1945381232038051995?s=46&t=LZlJuZ1uaIN4QMovCQVkvQ
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

article-2048206-02BB91710000044D-693_634x474.jpg
 
spids said:
You are actually agreeing with me other than how MGW should behave. Spurs cannot take them to court - it has to be the player. This is all on Gibbs-White. If the player does not force this he won’t get the move. We can only encourage him. Marinakis can just refuse to talk to us and we cannot do anything.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Ok I see what your saying. Marinakis is breaking MGW contract by not accepting his release clause so its up to MGW and his agents to sue him or at least threaten to. It might not be something Spurs can do from their side?
 
This is all part of the inevitable evolution to no transfer fees. Players will be free to resign their employment with a notice period (e.g. 3 months), and players will only be able to register for a new club in prescribed windows. Wages will massively increase. You’ll have the ridiculous situation where all top players give notice every March so they can pick and choose their club for the following season in July.
 
I don’t understand why they did such a round number for his release clause; is a £60m bid really too surprising without knowing the clause? Of course they should have put one in for much higher, but if around £60m then something like £62.6m would have made more sense for catching people out or forcing people to pay above it to avoid looking suspicious.
 
Don Pedro said:
Right I've had enough of this saga now. Same stories getting recycled for days and false reports being shared as facts.

I'm tapping out. Hopefully we get him and it all works out but I can't do another day of running around a wheel like a hamster checking for updates
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Erm what happened to this mate? 😂 (EDIT: Just saw you've already been asked and answered this earlier).

Honestly, I don't think there's any aspect of this that hasn't now been discussed to death on this thread, none of us have any further information, we just need to wait and see what happens, no point stressing about it 😉
 
Last edited:
JDM said:
I don’t understand why they did such a round number for his release clause; is a £60m bid really too surprising without knowing the clause? Of course they should have put one in for much higher, but if around £60m then something like £62.6m would have made more sense for catching people out or forcing people to pay above it to avoid looking suspicious.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I reckon theres more to it than just £60m. It's probably the way the payment is structured, or it's a very specific amount like £60.55m
 
A wanton thought.

The agents would normally get a significant percentage cut of any transfer fee.

Is Marinakis threatening to withhold their cut claiming they breached the NDA? Is this why CAA Stellar have not publicly enforced their player's contractual rights yet?

For Spurs and MGW, this is about adding an outstanding player to our squad.

For the agents, it's about their entire business model and the validity of release clauses for all their players. They have a fundamental interest in how this is resolved as it will likely set a precedent for any similar situations in the future.

If MGW still wants to join Spurs, and Levy still wants to pay the money, we should try to force it through.

If Marinakis then withholds CAA Stellar's cut, they're rich enough to hire top lawyers to get their money.
 
spids said:
This is all part of the inevitable evolution to no transfer fees. Players will be free to resign their employment with a notice period (e.g. 3 months), and players will only be able to register for a new club in prescribed windows. Wages will massively increase. You’ll have the ridiculous situation where all top players give notice every March so they can pick and choose their club for the following season in July.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that this will never happen.

Aside from the fact that it would lead to a total nonsense situation where no club has stability of playing staff, there's too many interested parties that make money from transfer fees for them to just disappear.

Players just being regular employees with notice periods, rather than contracted assets with an associated value to be traded at, would then also be open to the flipside of being sacked with only a months notice.

I fail to see in who's best interest this evolution would be, when compared to the drawbacks it would bring them, and so who would be pushing for it.
 
Don Pedro said:
I'm so confused by this whole saga. It just feels like the Forest owner has gone completely rogue. How can they expect more money then the release clause? I just don't get it.

The confidentiality thing is such bullshit too. How naive can you be? This is the real world, not a fucking board game!
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I guess they want the 60 paid this summer.
And spurs want to pay it over a few years...


:frankthink:
 
I'm just posting to keep the thread pages growing at this point because everyone just keeps regurgitating the same stuff, but every now and then we do have to remind ourselves just how significantly fat this Greek turd is.

Hi Forest fans.
 
Turfie said:
I guess they want the 60 paid this summer.
And spurs want to pay it over a few years...


:frankthink:
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
That was my initial thought but the RC is meant to include the required payment terms to trigger it, so I'd imagine whatever we offered has to be accepted, and heard its over 2 years.

I honestly think the whole thing is just the owner been stubborn and refusing to lose his best player for 60m. He is clutching at straws and trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. He's used to getting what he wants in his line of work by threatening people so is bringing that to the table here. I just can't see Levy flinching - he lives for this shit. Levy will see this as his own cup final and will want to publicly embarrass Marinakis in front of the footballing world.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top