I imagine you’re right. But the player is the one who can force Forest’s hand by getting the PFA involved. If their release clause has been triggered then legally a club cannot say no. They have to accept, willingly or unwillingly.
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I'm sure that'll go down well
IMO Marinakis starts to blink first soon.
MGW turning down contract offers and now the RC is public, nobody is going to offer the 60m we have. It's only down for him financially from here. If we start lowering the boom with a bid of 55m, the pressure really starts to hit.
Oh mate, don’t. I’m meant to be moving next Friday. My buyers solicitors are as useful as a condom in a convent.
Ignores all emails from any party, afraid on answering his phone and lies about sending documents. Proper wanker.
If they can't prove tapping up and we can't get MGW to force the move I fully think we should take Marinakis to court for libel. If this very public dragging through the mud of our reputation cannot in any meaningful way be proven why should we allow slanderous accusations against us to go unchallenged? What if the accusation hinders our dealings with other clubs? There's no way we should just allow it to slide, get him in court and force the fat wanker to apologise and write us a cheque for the bother.
Or can we just set it alight and give the ashes to the England Cricket team, they might appreciate them.Can't we just buy Forest? That would be the simple option
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I've been pretty firmly in the camp of: This will get done eventually, even if it involves some bs add ons for everyone to save face.
But, if MGW travels with Forest next week I'll start to actually be worried about it. If he doesn't travel, even if there's no movement, I'll still be confident it happens, but if he goes that's a red flag.
I understand everyone just trying to go through the motions this week (I doubt he's doing anything that could cause injury at training). But if he travels and maybe even steps on a pitch, I think this thing is in very serious doubt.
But, if MGW travels with Forest next week I'll start to actually be worried about it. If he doesn't travel, even if there's no movement, I'll still be confident it happens, but if he goes that's a red flag.
I understand everyone just trying to go through the motions this week (I doubt he's doing anything that could cause injury at training). But if he travels and maybe even steps on a pitch, I think this thing is in very serious doubt.
Harry Kane came on tour with us and only left the day before the season started.
It means nothing
Just did a quick search on Forest salaries. Can you believe that James Ward Prowse is their highest paid player?!?
Doing some quick maths, their turnover is circa £70M. Their wage bill in circa £64M. To comply with the PSR 70% cap, they need to reduce their wage bill to circa £49M, so they need to shave off £15M this year to comply, which is essentially 4 of their highest earners. Elanga wasn't one of them as he was on roughly 25% of what MGW is currently on. They could, of course, offload a lot more of their lesser paid players, but they only have a 27 man squad now and, with Europe, can't afford to strip around 30% of that squad, so they're kind of stuck with needing to offload high earners to comply. Four of them!
Currently their highest earners are;
JWP - £5.9M
Nikola Milenkovic - £5.4M
Chris Wood - £4.6M
CHO - £4.1M
MGW - £4.1M
Sangaré - £3.9M
So they'd need to offload 3-4 of their main players to comply.
Who's going to buy them?
As near as I can tell, Forest are hip deep in trouble.
Sure sure, Ben Jacobs knows what Daniel is thinking.
Yeah but those circumstances were different, even if it looked strongly like Bayern would meet the valuation, there wasn't an official offer yet.
In this case, MGW going signals to me he's not going to put up the fight necessary to make the move happen. Kane attempted that with no leverage the year before, and then played nice when everything was progressing the right way.
This doesn't seem to be progressing, and MGW is going to have to make a push. If he travels I think it shows a mindset that he's not willing to do that.
EDIT: To note that I hope like hell you're right and I'm wrong on this. I love this player.
It's understandable for everyone (including the journalists involved) to bracket this within the framework and expectations of a a "normal" transfer saga, silly season gonna silly season and all that.
But the reality is that this is a totally different and near-unprecedented situation, and the one of the most sharp differences is that a normal transfer saga is fundamentally a matter between two clubs, whereas this is primarily a dispute between Forest and MGW in which Spurs are merely an interested third party.
people really need to learn a bit of patienceThere you go.
Forest don’t just want to sell MGW, they need to.
They would have found it easier to sell their fans on City taking MGW because “he wanted to go to a contender” but City didn’t want to pay the 60m.
We are the only ones willing to pay the 60m that MGW actually wants to go to
Are you sure their turnover is only £70m and their wage bill only £49m? Just the TV payments are over £110m. Shirley it has to be more than what you're quoting.
You've made a hash of this across a number of domains unfortunately.
For starters, Forest's PL TV payments alone were 152.5M, they'll have hit 200 without breaking a sweat.
Also, the squad cost regulations are not in force in the PL/PSR, they're looking at that strictly on a factfinding basis at the moment, and the number proposed had been 85% of turnover on wages PLUS transfer costs and agent fees.
The 70% number comes from the UEFA regulations, which are meaningless because knowing, brazen violations are being punished only by fines. That won't be a concern to Forest at all.
There's no doubt Forest are skating razor close to the PSR line, as any ambitious club at their level is forced to, but they've sold near 100M in players already, there's no way an MGW sale is make-or-break for them.
This is a fcuking distraction.
Look at Woolwich (not too closely) and Liverpool)
That gap is just getting bigger.
We need a fair bit more than just Gibbs-White.
Look at Woolwich (not too closely) and Liverpool)
That gap is just getting bigger.
We need a fair bit more than just Gibbs-White.
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The UEFA fines are pretty hefty though for a club of Forest's size. Villa were fined €11m, if I'm not mistaken, and Chelsea €31m that can potentially rise to €91m for breaching FFP. Even if Forest's fine is at the low end, that'll wipe out anything they make in Europe. Might even be better financially for them not to qualify.
Yeah, but Gibbs-White is a good start.
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