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All this noise about investment and the club acting differently this summer…. Not buying it.

Felt like maybe with MGW so quick but they’ve done fuck all in reality


We tried and probably still will do something we have never done before. Buying 2 players for £55m and £60m is unheard of from Tottenham not to mention the £35m for Tel.
Something is different this transfer window I'm not entirely sure what it is yet but we are acting differently than we have before under ENIC
 
You've made a hash of this across a number of domains unfortunately.

For starters, Forest's PL TV payments alone were 152.5M, they'll have hit 200 without breaking a sweat.

Also, the squad cost regulations are not in force in the PL/PSR, they're looking at that strictly on a factfinding basis at the moment, and the number proposed had been 85% of turnover on wages PLUS transfer costs and agent fees.

The 70% number comes from the UEFA regulations, which are meaningless because knowing, brazen violations are being punished only by fines. That won't be a concern to Forest at all.

There's no doubt Forest are skating razor close to the PSR line, as any ambitious club at their level is forced to, but they've sold near 100M in players already, there's no way an MGW sale is make-or-break for them.
I just did basic maths. Forest's wage bill is just shy of £64M per year. The New York Times actually reports their wage to revenue ratio at 94% for the 2024/2025 season, so I extrapolated their revenue from that. I guess the TV monies weren't factored in, maybe because they haven't received them yet?

If the UEFA regulations are so meaningless, how come virtually every club is doing it's damndest to comply with them?

Lastly, £100M???

Elanga £55 M
Sosa £10M
Every other player has left on a free.

They've then brought in Igor Jesus and Jair Cunha from Botofogo. Combined fee is around £25M, so £40M to date in profit.

I understand where you're coming from though. I did the maths based on the info that they were sitting at 91% wage/revenue, then calculated the revenue from the reported squad wages. I would assume the additional 3% reported by the NYT is for non playing staff.
 
We tried and probably still will do something we have never done before. Buying 2 players for £55m and £60m is unheard of from Tottenham not to mention the £35m for Tel.
Something is different this transfer window I'm not entirely sure what it is yet but we are acting differently than we have before under ENIC
Eh, Madders, VDV and Johnson were a lot of money, as were Solanke and Gray. And now we have Champions League.

This is a very rich football club.
 
We tried and probably still will do something we have never done before. Buying 2 players for £55m and £60m is unheard of from Tottenham not to mention the £35m for Tel.
Something is different this transfer window I'm not entirely sure what it is yet but we are acting differently than we have before under ENIC
It might just be the EL and CL revenue being spent.

A lot of people got overly excited after reading a rumour about outside investment. There's been absolutely nothing to substantiate that, but it didn't stop people from adding 2 and 2 to make 5.
 
I just did basic maths. Forest's wage bill is just shy of £64M per year. The New York Times actually reports their wage to revenue ratio at 94% for the 2024/2025 season, so I extrapolated their revenue from that.
I don't want to be an insufferable pedant (too late, I know), but there's just like a whole bunch wrong with that.

Lastly, £100M???

Elanga £55 M
Sosa £10M
Every other player has left on a free.
I just eyeballed Wikipedia, but Danilo just got finalized today for 21.7 and Andrew Omobamidele (he of the purported match fixing penalty concession to screw Palace) had his loan deal made permanent for 6.9.

93.6 total.
 
I don't want to be an insufferable pedant (too late, I know), but there's just like a whole bunch wrong with that.
Ok, I'm game. How is the maths wrong? If 91% of your revenue is used on wages, and your wage bill is £64M, what is this "whole bunch" that I'm doing wrong?
I just eyeballed Wikipedia, but Danilo just got finalized today for 21.7 and Andrew Omobamidele (he of the purported match fixing penalty concession to screw Palace) had his loan deal made permanent for 6.9.

93.6 total.
Righto.
 
Just did a quick search on Forest salaries. Can you believe that James Ward Prowse is their highest paid player?!?

Doing some quick maths, their turnover is circa £70M. Their wage bill in circa £64M. To comply with the PSR 70% cap, they need to reduce their wage bill to circa £49M, so they need to shave off £15M this year to comply, which is essentially 4 of their highest earners. Elanga wasn't one of them as he was on roughly 25% of what MGW is currently on. They could, of course, offload a lot more of their lesser paid players, but they only have a 27 man squad now and, with Europe, can't afford to strip around 30% of that squad, so they're kind of stuck with needing to offload high earners to comply. Four of them!

Currently their highest earners are;

JWP - £5.9M
Nikola Milenkovic - £5.4M
Chris Wood - £4.6M
CHO - £4.1M
MGW - £4.1M
Sangaré - £3.9M

So they'd need to offload 3-4 of their main players to comply.

Who's going to buy them?

As near as I can tell, Forest are hip deep in trouble.
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I don't want to be an insufferable pedant (too late, I know), but there's just like a whole bunch wrong with that.


I just eyeballed Wikipedia, but Danilo just got finalized today for 21.7 and Andrew Omobamidele (he of the purported match fixing penalty concession to screw Palace) had his loan deal made permanent for 6.9.

93.6 total.

He’s talking wages I believe. Transfer fees secondary in their problems it seems
 
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