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Mourinhio @ Spurs
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Fuck Levy, fuck José, and if you be down with them, fuck you too! HMRC, fuck you too! Die slow motherfuckers!!!
More than just allegedly, worst kept secret on the south coast.fatfish said:
Not even libellous any more.
And as per above, fucking hell no.
on the other hand, Pardew for England!
He'd fit right in with all the primadonas and I could at least then give less of a shit about the national team (as sad as that is to contemplate, but frankly I have long since fallen out of love with the majority of cunts who make up our national team)
Levy can't afford Jose.spooky said:
fickle cunt.spooky said:
fatfish said:
He shagged Fonte's missus.
He also shagged my boss's misses (that's a true story)
You know what,
I've thought long and hard about this and looked at all the yays and nays...
I'm definitely leaning towards the for Mourinhio camp.
I'm hearing what people are saying about him being a cunt...agreed.
That he'll only be out for himself...agreed.
That he'll bring a whole world of media lovin' and circus on Spurs...agreed.
But given T's comment about our next managerial selection being one of the most important in recent years I can't see it being anyone else.
All this talk about Rodgers, Moyes etc... It's a great idea, but at this stage would really want to take a punt on an unproven manager. I know Moyes has been relatively stable at Everton, but it would be a big ask for him to step up to the Spurs plate, keep our top players and build a team capable of challenging for the title and Champions League next year.
Name me one manager who is around at the moment, who could potentially become our manager, who could step up to the challenge. Who could help us keep our key players, who would help us get big names in, who would be capable of keeping a team together that could challenge for the title and the Champions League.
I can only come up with Mourinhio.
I get the whole Spurs way argument and how he would change what we believe in. But this is no Stratford, we're not uprooting ourselves from our home, something so sacred that most of us may have stopped supporting Spurs altogether.
This is about one job and the chance to make a statement about our intent to challenge at the top for the next few years. Mourinhio won't be there forever and clubs have got on after he leaves, despite any legacy left behind.
I always say I supported Spurs for all 35 years of my time on Planet Earth, because I was born into a Spur family. Apart from distant memories of the 80's we all agree this is the best team we've had since. We've got to keep the momentum going... Fuck me I badly want to see us do well, for the next few years at least.
The chance to win titles and be in the Champions League regularly has got to be worth having a slef centred cunt as a manager for a little while, hasn't it?
Fuck it maybe I'm selling us out and I'll have to eat an almighty slice of humple turd at the end of it. But right now I'm happy to dance with devil by the pale moonlight!
I've thought long and hard about this and looked at all the yays and nays...
I'm definitely leaning towards the for Mourinhio camp.
I'm hearing what people are saying about him being a cunt...agreed.
That he'll only be out for himself...agreed.
That he'll bring a whole world of media lovin' and circus on Spurs...agreed.
But given T's comment about our next managerial selection being one of the most important in recent years I can't see it being anyone else.
All this talk about Rodgers, Moyes etc... It's a great idea, but at this stage would really want to take a punt on an unproven manager. I know Moyes has been relatively stable at Everton, but it would be a big ask for him to step up to the Spurs plate, keep our top players and build a team capable of challenging for the title and Champions League next year.
Name me one manager who is around at the moment, who could potentially become our manager, who could step up to the challenge. Who could help us keep our key players, who would help us get big names in, who would be capable of keeping a team together that could challenge for the title and the Champions League.
I can only come up with Mourinhio.
I get the whole Spurs way argument and how he would change what we believe in. But this is no Stratford, we're not uprooting ourselves from our home, something so sacred that most of us may have stopped supporting Spurs altogether.
This is about one job and the chance to make a statement about our intent to challenge at the top for the next few years. Mourinhio won't be there forever and clubs have got on after he leaves, despite any legacy left behind.
I always say I supported Spurs for all 35 years of my time on Planet Earth, because I was born into a Spur family. Apart from distant memories of the 80's we all agree this is the best team we've had since. We've got to keep the momentum going... Fuck me I badly want to see us do well, for the next few years at least.
The chance to win titles and be in the Champions League regularly has got to be worth having a slef centred cunt as a manager for a little while, hasn't it?
Fuck it maybe I'm selling us out and I'll have to eat an almighty slice of humple turd at the end of it. But right now I'm happy to dance with devil by the pale moonlight!
Benjoss said:
Hiddink meets all that criteria, I think.
Hiddink's record at a glance.
6 x winner of Dutch League
4 x winner of Dutch Cup
1 x winner of Dutch Super Cup
1 x winner of European Cup (pre-Champions League)
1 x winner FA Cup
Champions League semis with PSV
World cup semis twice with Holland & South Korea
Took Australia to best ever position in World Cup (only losing to Italy with a last minute penalty)
Took Russia to Euro semi finals
World coach of the year 2002
Oh and one other thing he's done (that 'Arry hasn't).......Guus has been convicted of tax fraud!
Having said that, Jose for me.
6 x winner of Dutch League
4 x winner of Dutch Cup
1 x winner of Dutch Super Cup
1 x winner of European Cup (pre-Champions League)
1 x winner FA Cup
Champions League semis with PSV
World cup semis twice with Holland & South Korea
Took Australia to best ever position in World Cup (only losing to Italy with a last minute penalty)
Took Russia to Euro semi finals
World coach of the year 2002
Oh and one other thing he's done (that 'Arry hasn't).......Guus has been convicted of tax fraud!
Having said that, Jose for me.
"facts" are this really;
Mourinho would cost c£8m per year
Plus a £100m (at least) transfer kitty
Plus the increased wage budget that this would entail
a) can we afford that? I'd say not - we might stretch to a £50m budget and a £5m salary but our wage structure is confined by our (relatively) "low" revenue streams
b) In 3 years when he leaves, what then? Look at Ch***** post Mourinho, Inter post Mourinho...
c) Is he worth that level of financial risk? We're basically gambling our medium-term future on his short-term success in this scenario
Don't forget we have a £400m plus building project about to begin and unless we really can cover that kind of money through naming rights then we'll have to cut our cloth during the transition.
However, there really are a lack of alternatives if you look around.
Hiddink - brilliant but will go to Ch***** in the summer when they hound AVB out
Moyes - steady, can work on a restricted budget and deserves a chance somewhere with more money...but he's not inspiring me
Klinsmann - track record as patchy as a room full of pirates
Rogers - a gamble, and a gamble who's just signed a new contract
Pardew - Er, no. The phrase "one season wonder" springs to mind until he's proved it consistently (and he'd still be a no even then, 'orrible c***)
Sherwood - being groomed by Levy, but *shudder*
Jose might just be a gamble we have to take?
Conflicted.
Mourinho would cost c£8m per year
Plus a £100m (at least) transfer kitty
Plus the increased wage budget that this would entail
a) can we afford that? I'd say not - we might stretch to a £50m budget and a £5m salary but our wage structure is confined by our (relatively) "low" revenue streams
b) In 3 years when he leaves, what then? Look at Ch***** post Mourinho, Inter post Mourinho...
c) Is he worth that level of financial risk? We're basically gambling our medium-term future on his short-term success in this scenario
Don't forget we have a £400m plus building project about to begin and unless we really can cover that kind of money through naming rights then we'll have to cut our cloth during the transition.
However, there really are a lack of alternatives if you look around.
Hiddink - brilliant but will go to Ch***** in the summer when they hound AVB out
Moyes - steady, can work on a restricted budget and deserves a chance somewhere with more money...but he's not inspiring me
Klinsmann - track record as patchy as a room full of pirates
Rogers - a gamble, and a gamble who's just signed a new contract
Pardew - Er, no. The phrase "one season wonder" springs to mind until he's proved it consistently (and he'd still be a no even then, 'orrible c***)
Sherwood - being groomed by Levy, but *shudder*
Jose might just be a gamble we have to take?
Conflicted.
From the alternatives you've listed:thedutchman said:
Hiddink - probably Chelsea, I think too old - probably retire in 3 years so we've gotta do it all again
Moyes - my preference right now. Proven record. Players play for him.
Klinsmann - no PL managerial experience
Rodges - can't see him leaving Swansea
Pardew - fuck no
Sherwood - no more than a coach right now.
Jose - egotistical maniac. Would drag the club's name through the mud
da1seggy said:
Moyes is the one I keep coming back to...but the bigger issue is going to be keeping the players we have happy if/when HR leaves. I don't know whether he will. Mourinho, on the other hand, would make a big statement to them. As I said, I'm conflicted because there are some very valid reasons not to go after him, but he *might* be our only option to keep this thing going...
I see where you're coming from, but players should play for the shirt first. If a player will only come to Spurs because Mourinho is in charge, I'm not sure I'd want them.thedutchman said:
Sorry but thats players these days, I think most players play for managers rather than teams they play for, they cant all be fans of the teams they play for.
When Harry joined he didnt have any European experience and many had reservations he was the man who would get us to CL. But he did.
Moyes could be a similar story, he's done his time at other clubs and i'm sure he would take the chance to work for a club with some money to spend.
Rodgers - just signed a new contract, not as much experience.
Klinnsman - really?
Pardew - haha
Sherwood - again, really?
Hiddink - meh
Jose - massive money, would have all sorts of demands im sure. Would demand we spend mega money on players wages. A big old circus would follow him but would also be a great draw for Levy with his mission to grow us as a brand - dont forget that.
When Harry joined he didnt have any European experience and many had reservations he was the man who would get us to CL. But he did.
Moyes could be a similar story, he's done his time at other clubs and i'm sure he would take the chance to work for a club with some money to spend.
Rodgers - just signed a new contract, not as much experience.
Klinnsman - really?
Pardew - haha
Sherwood - again, really?
Hiddink - meh
Jose - massive money, would have all sorts of demands im sure. Would demand we spend mega money on players wages. A big old circus would follow him but would also be a great draw for Levy with his mission to grow us as a brand - dont forget that.
Dru - Just on Moyes, I'm with you to a degree. A quick look at his 10 years at Everton says this;
P455 W189 D117 L149
And finishes of 15th, 7th, 17th, 4th, 11th, 6th, 5th, 5th, 8th and 7th. With probably an 8th place or so this season.
Baring in mind his first season was taking them over in the March in a right old mess and from then on building them with some ups and downs into a very solid side the last 5 seasons (plus this one) with no money to spend. However, when he has had money it's not always been well spent.
And agree with the last bit about Mourinho boosting the Suprs "brand" around the world. Levy has £££ signs in his eyes at that thought
Could have started a Moyes thread with those stats but I've written this now so won't!
P455 W189 D117 L149
And finishes of 15th, 7th, 17th, 4th, 11th, 6th, 5th, 5th, 8th and 7th. With probably an 8th place or so this season.
Baring in mind his first season was taking them over in the March in a right old mess and from then on building them with some ups and downs into a very solid side the last 5 seasons (plus this one) with no money to spend. However, when he has had money it's not always been well spent.
And agree with the last bit about Mourinho boosting the Suprs "brand" around the world. Levy has £££ signs in his eyes at that thought
Could have started a Moyes thread with those stats but I've written this now so won't!