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Management Next Manager Poll (poll reset 11/04/23)

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Next Manager

  • Rodgers

    Votes: 15 3.6%
  • Potter

    Votes: 25 5.9%
  • Nagelsmann

    Votes: 177 41.9%
  • Kompany

    Votes: 43 10.2%
  • Slot

    Votes: 91 21.6%
  • Postecoglou

    Votes: 74 17.5%
  • De Zerbi

    Votes: 31 7.3%
  • Xabi Alonso

    Votes: 11 2.6%
  • Stellini

    Votes: 4 0.9%
  • Frank

    Votes: 10 2.4%
  • Luis Enrique

    Votes: 21 5.0%
  • Zidane

    Votes: 5 1.2%
  • Glasner

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Amorim

    Votes: 10 2.4%
  • Carrick

    Votes: 9 2.1%
  • Gallardo

    Votes: 23 5.5%
  • Schmidt

    Votes: 2 0.5%

  • Total voters
    422
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A straw man argument because neither myself or Starks Starks are arguing to hire Rodgers.
That doesn’t change the fact that only Pep, Klopp and Arteta have had as much EPL success of the current crop.
Poch had one season and an 8th place finish when we hired him after leaving a dead last place Espanyol.
Harry had a couple of relegations before we hired him and had no success in the EPL. He was relegated again after he left us and left Birmingham City one from bottom.
BMJ. came to us from Waalwijk. Yeah, you’ll probably have to look them up.
The fact that turnover has decimated the PL managerial ranks is really the only reason your claim holds up.

My point was never that we have to hire a manager with a proven PL track record. As was pointed out, I put a vote in for Carrick. Why? He's played exciting football, I think he's got some promise, there's a connection to the club already there, and I want us to try and build something after the last couple of retread Chavs as managers.

My point on Rodgers is simply that those who claimed he's "proven" are greatly overstating his track record. His best 2 seasons in the PL were his 2nd and 3rd. It's been steady mediocrity since then, aside from the FA Cup. He ought to be managing West Ham, not Spurs.
 
As mentioned, Brighton were after him when Potter left.

But they make horrible decisions up and down the board, as we know. So we probably shouldn't listen to what they do.

Btw, I first mentioned Ange in March, a few weeks before Conte was even sacked. Said it would be a gamble. And then said how I liked him 2 weeks after he was sacked.

But then the Nagelsmann stuff happened and I like de Zerbi. So they were always my choices. As time went on, it's looked increasingly unlikely de Zerbi would be possible and Nagelsmann seems to be a typical Levy screw up. So Ange was always on my mind.
Elvis is alive
 
I'd love Ange over any of them but I'm Aussie so everybody else can garn get fucked. It is amusing watching the same people who whined about how shit Jose and Conte were complaining about Ange because he isn't a big name. Ange is the complete opposite of those flogs. The football will be a lot of fun even if we don't win as much as we did with Conte. I think he will at least take the cups seriously seeing what he is doing with Celtic presently. I don't care about being Top 4 FC.

As for Naglesmann I wonder if when he asked who the DOF was going to be Levy said it was him. "No but seriously who is it?"

Headline: "Whilst Spurs admire Naglesmann they don't feel he is..."
I appreciate that the football might be more enjoyable, but if, we are not winning as many games, that isn't great either.
It's no good losing 3-2 or 5-4 every few weeks, because that will get tedious as well.
The team needs consistency in their approach, if we wish to remain among the top six, finishing mid table is not really an option imo.
 
Thinking Harry Kane is going to spend longer at Spurs because of who is in charge at the club is the the most ridiculous thought and it amazes me people still actually think like this.

What are Harry Kane's goals? Do you know them? Is it to play under well known managers?

We need to tell Harry we will make Ryan Mason head coach and offer Harry £1m a week on a 6 year deal.

Test his ambitions……..
 
Celtic have direct entry into the CL, apart from money what incentive does Ange have to take over a broken 8th place side that will probably be minus our best player next season and working with a board that has little ambition?
 





His agent is busy isn’t he?

That’s all I think is happening here.

I’m struggling to believe we are really looking at him. If he leaves Celtic I bet it’s to Palace or West Ham or somewhere at that level. Levy isn’t going to bet the house on him what with wanting to tie Kane down to a new contract and also get back in the champions league next season (when top 5 should do it) without the European football distraction. It just feels too big of a risk.
 
Rodgers is a very proven PL coach - two top 6 finishes with Leicester (whisker away from 4th), challenged for the title with a shit Liverpool team aside from Suarez & good Swans team. And throw an FA cup in as well.

I guarantee you that if you give De Zerbi another 5-6 years at this level, he will have his down periods and probably at least one sacking. That’s the game unless you’re Guardiola.

True.

Super post
 
Celtic have direct entry into the CL, apart from money what incentive does Ange have to take over a broken 8th place side that will probably be minus our best player next season and working with a board that has little ambition?

Because he will be playing and testing himself in the big league and getting big wages. He can play some of the top CL teams in the prem next season anyway. Right now he is a big fish in a little pond, he can see how he copes in a big pond.

You look at the Celtic and Rangers squads and they are hardly even lower prem level, that is the power of size and money.
 
mason isn't even an option but seeing the players together after mouras goal the other day is something I haven't really seen in a long time. maybe Ryan isn't the answer but still
 
12 points from 23 matches. Dean Smith got 9 points from 8 matches....but, hey, let's blame the guy that ended up holding the bag when Rodgers did a runner!

Crazy that you people are claiming a guy with 2 top 4 finishes a decade ago is a legitimate candidate for Spurs. Rodgers is the definition of mediocrity.
Don’t care about Rodgers. - He shouldn’t be our next manager but wanted to point out the typical Levybot twisting of facts here.

1. Rodgers had 26 points from 28 games in total. Still horrible so not sure why the Levybot feels the need exaggerate by picking Rodger’s worst run of games and saying 12 from 23. I guess it’s just following it’s computer code/programming. It doesn’t do the same for Smith of course - whose worst run of games got him 2 points from 4.

2. GGraham and Starks both state they don’t want Rodgers as our manager but that doesn’t stop the Levybot from stating otherwise. This one’s a little obvious - I think the Levybot version Memphis programming needs a bit of an upgrade here.

Another one going ignore for me. Putting all the Levybots on ignore.
 
Really?

Liverpool before Rodgers: 2nd, 7th, 6th, 8th
Liverpool with Rodgers: 4th, 2nd, 7th, 6th
Liverpool after Rodger: 4th, 4th, 2nd, 1st

Leicester before Rodgers: 1st, 12th, 9th, 9th
Leicester with Rodgers: 5th, 5th, 8th, 7 defeats in 10 matches
Leicester after Rodgers: Relegated.

His Swansea PL stint, 1 year, wasn't long enough to matter, and I count no one's time at Celtic as meaningful.

Clearly a good solid PL level manager.
 
Rodgers is a very proven PL coach - two top 6 finishes with Leicester (whisker away from 4th), challenged for the title with a shit Liverpool team aside from Suarez & good Swans team. And throw an FA cup in as well.

I guarantee you that if you give De Zerbi another 5-6 years at this level, he will have his down periods and probably at least one sacking. That’s the game unless you’re Guardiola.
In the 2013-14 season that Rodgers managed Liverpool they had more than 1 non-shitty player. In that team there were Gerrard, Henderson, Sterling, Coutinho, (Glenn Johnson, Sturridge). And once Suarez left the following season, Liverpool basically implored.
Ranieri is also a proven EPL head-coach. He even won the EPL with Leicester and did decently at Chelski (before Roman took over the club). But he’s no longer a sought after head-coach.
Potter was a very wanted man before he flopped at Chelski.
Like players, most (not all) head-coaches also have their peaks. I am not saying it’s over for Rodgers but he’s certainly not as attractive anymore and with the players he had at Leicester they should not have been relegated.
 
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Celtic have direct entry into the CL, apart from money what incentive does Ange have to take over a broken 8th place side that will probably be minus our best player next season and working with a board that has little ambition?
Age, money and ambition. I cant imagine he's minted given his career path to date and at 57 will he get a chance again to be manager of a top 6 club in the toughest league in the world? He seems a fairly ambitious bloke that likes a challenge. No idea if he'll be any good or not, doubt he'll sweep all before him winning titles and cups but a good chance given a bit of luck he might be a Martin Jol type, a good leader playing good football and it being fun. I'd take that at the moment.
 
Because he will be playing and testing himself in the big league and getting big wages. He can play some of the top CL teams in the prem next season anyway. Right now he is a big fish in a little pond, he can see how he copes in a big pond.

You look at the Celtic and Rangers squads and they are hardly even lower prem level, that is the power of size and money.
He could just wait for Palace or Fulham job or something similar. Because of ENIC and they run the club and undermine managers, the job isn't that attractive any more. Once upon a time, a Brighton manager, Brentford manager would jump at the chance to manage us, now they just prefer to stay where they are.
 
Celtic have direct entry into the CL, apart from money what incentive does Ange have to take over a broken 8th place side that will probably be minus our best player next season and working with a board that has little ambition?

Working in the PL......for an Aussie coach it would be huge. I'm not sure but would he be the first Aussie to manage in the PL?
 
Age, money and ambition. I cant imagine he's minted given his career path to date and at 57 will he get a chance again to be manager of a top 6 club in the toughest league in the world? He seems a fairly ambitious bloke that likes a challenge. No idea if he'll be any good or not, doubt he'll sweep all before him winning titles and cups but a good chance given a bit of luck he might be a Martin Jol type, a good leader playing good football and it being fun. I'd take that at the moment.
We aren't a top 6 club at the moment and certainly haven't acted like one for some time now, if the manager has ambition but the board don't, it's going to end like all the rest. MJ had ambition remember when he wanted a quality 4th striker and Levy pulled Rasiak out of his arse in the last moments of the window? Conte was the last hope I had of getting the board to see sense and match his ambition but the board even messed him around.
 
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