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Management Next Manager Poll (poll reset 11/04/23)

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Next Manager

  • Rodgers

    Votes: 15 3.6%

  • Potter

    Votes: 25 5.9%

  • Nagelsmann

    Votes: 177 41.9%

  • Kompany

    Votes: 43 10.2%

  • Slot

    Votes: 91 21.6%

  • Postecoglou

    Votes: 74 17.5%

  • De Zerbi

    Votes: 31 7.3%

  • Xabi Alonso

    Votes: 11 2.6%

  • Stellini

    Votes: 4 0.9%

  • Frank

    Votes: 10 2.4%

  • Luis Enrique

    Votes: 21 5.0%

  • Zidane

    Votes: 5 1.2%

  • Glasner

    Votes: 3 0.7%

  • Amorim

    Votes: 10 2.4%

  • Carrick

    Votes: 9 2.1%

  • Gallardo

    Votes: 23 5.5%

  • Schmidt

    Votes: 2 0.5%
  • Total voters
    422
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bk_spur said:
100%

Levy and ENIC are either in complete denial, or are utterly desperate to hang on to their positions.

They will never admit they are the problem
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It is easy to get rid of a Manager or other staff, just sack them. Owners are different. I have supported all recent Managers up to just before they were sacked but they all deserved sacking including Poch and many on here were calling for them to be sacked. Levy has done good over the years including the stadium and making us a team that regularly gets into Europe. However like the Managers there comes a time when he has overstayed his welcome and now he should go. Failure to win trophies is his biggest failure.

I do not go along with the anti Levy mob who blame him for everything and I do think he has tried to take more of a back seat but losing Paratici has put him right back in control. I do think he is well aware of increasing criticism and yes I am sure he would love to stay in control. However the pressure is mounting but it will take time to find a buyer and I can see him hoping/praying that the summer changes will bring success but if not I can see him leaving next summer with Kane. If however next season things go well and Kane signs a new contract them he will stay.
 
Juicy Sushi said:
I don't think Luis Enrique would have any illusions that it would be an overnight change. If he is willing to accept that it will be a big rebuild that will take time and he will not have instant gratification, it can work. He at least will be happy to work with the Bryan Gils of the world, and that's at least part of the solution right there.

He's obviously not a perfect candidate, but no one is. That being said, he seems to really want to be in England, and seems to at least understand that instant gratification is not on the menu.
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I would Love to see LE football in the Premier League. And I don't mind a slow patient overhaul. But it means We'd need a squad overhaul of at least 6 first team players. Hugo/Forster, Dier, Davies, PEH/Skipp, Kulusevski, Richarlison would have to make way for high calibre footballers that are able to make accurate passes. They don't come cheap. We've been slogging away for years now. We don't have the players for "Spanish" football. I don't think Elcheapo Levy will be willing to fork out for such a DNA change.
 
The Romanian Jack said:
That’s some mental gymnastics skills... If anything, your post is making this situation look worse. If we’re making good managers look shit, then imagine how we’ll make average managers like Postegluglu look like?
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I think the important thing is how he sets the team up and can inspire them, I mean Celtic aren't a strong enough team to do very well in Europe, but then neither were we under Conte.

Look we've had two failed serial winning managers in a row, maybe someone more low key is better for us.
 
Col_McCafferty said:
I can't imagine the likes of Pep or Klopp being bothered by the prospect of coming up against Ange's Spurs.

Nagelsmann's Spurs on the other hand?

Sounds like some people are trying too hard to convince themselves that we've pulled off some sort of masterstroke in getting him.
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Too late, I feel many have already drank the fresca
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McCOYS said:
I think the important thing is how he sets the team up and can inspire them, I mean Celtic aren't a strong enough team to do very well in Europe, but then neither were we,

Look we've had two failed serial winning managers in a row, maybe someone more low key is better for us.
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I reiterate that I didn’t expect them to do very well in Europe. I expected them to overachieve and by that I meant beat Shakhtar to third to at least get in Europa League (would’ve been impressive if they reached QF/SF of EL afterwards, but we’re talking landing Mars now). If you come back and tell me they don’t have the resources to compete with a club that comes out of a country that was shocked by war, then maybe it’s time to admit that the SPL is shit and it’s not better than Eredivisie for example, since it was used as a comparison?

And no, we don’t have to hire a serial winner manager or a low key manager. We have to hire the manager who’d be the best fit for our club in regards to the strategy we put down and our objectives. But when a club like Spurs seems to lack this fundamental aspect for success, yeah, I’d expect the club to go from A (serial winners) to B (low key) more based on “we tried this, let’s try the opposite”.
 
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SpursRomania SpursRomania it'll be kind of funny if Celtic lose today in the Scottish Cup against Inverness Caledonian Thistle .
 
The Romanian Jack said:
I reiterate that I didn’t expect them to do very well in Europe. I expected them to overachieve and by that I meant beat Shakhtar to third to at least get in Europa League. If you come back and tell me they don’t have the resources to compete with a club that comes from s country that was shocked by war, then maybe it’s time to admit that the SPL is shit and it’s not better than Eredivisie for example, since it was used as a comparison?

And no, we don’t have to hire a serial winner manager or a low key manager. We have to hire the manager who’d be the best fit for our club in regards to the strategy we put down and our objectives. But when you lack a fundamental aspect of success, yeah, I’d expect the club to go from A (serial winners) to B (low key) more based on “we tried this, let’s try the opposite”.
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Sure but if the reports are correct we're going to hire big Ange next week. How do you know he's not a good fit? Just because he can't beat Shakhtar, lol we got knocked out of the group stages of the Europa Conference League under Conte.

I'd prefer Nagelsmann as next manager but I don't think it's going to happen.
 
The Romanian Jack said:
I don’t expect them to beat Real Madrid or some other top teams in Europe, but I expected them to overachieve, if the manager’s so good as he’s hyped. They couldn’t even beat Shakhtar.

And I don’t care about the CV, I care how a manager did his work throughout his career. To me, this Celtic manager doesn’t stand out in any single way.
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Ange is leapfrogging the type of EPL team that he's ready for or a realistic fit for (currently). If he's getting offered Spurs... he's won a watch. That's like the Championship winning manager getting it. Not comparing Celtic to the best team in the Championship btw. Tho tbf, the level of team in the Championship is a massive upgrade to Scottish football teams.

I think he's a good man manager and believes in himself, but he's stubborn. I've gave my views in the Ange P thread on his tactics so no point rehashing it here.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Ok, appreciate the post.

The question I'd have about vision:

How can a Chairman who doesn't have any coaching experience, scouting experience, or playing experience come up with a football vision?
Unless that vision is as simple as "attacking football, with young players, world class experienced players, and academy products".

in which case, which Chairman in football doesn't have that vision?

Surely a Chairman needs good, football people (DOF, Sports Director, Coach, Scouts, Analytics) to come up with a plan for how the squad plays and vision for the squad, and then the academy needs to be geared toward producing players that can fit that?

For me, it's this:
After the club ditched all of the vision and planning that Poch created and went from Jose to Nuno, then Conte, they clearly don't have much capacity for football vision and planning.

If they are the ones doing it again now, what reason is there to expect anything other than more half-baked ideas that get ditched after some bad results? Then a whole new vision again when we get another new coach...
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The vision can be simple. From the vision you build the plan. The Chairman will be involved in that, even if it is just to oversee progress, but he will have a plan provided to him that has to be convincing enough for him to sign off on. I went through this the other day, scope, pitch, sign off.

From that point onwards, it's the job of the DoF, to appoint whatever staff are required to fulfill his remit. If he's already got a manager in then he's ahead of the game.

On your second paragraph, I can't really argue against that and, to be honest, don't want to either. It's the single biggest issue I have with the leadership. I don't bang on about it because we have plenty on here who do. Every. Single. Day. They've been poor, really poor on that front, there simply isn't a cogent argument that can gainsay that.

As for your last paragraph, I can't really answer that question. I know how the mechanics work as I've been involved with companies who've started out on a new vision, after the previous direction proved to be a failure, and they've come good even though the Chairman/CEO has remained in place. Different industry, but the principle remains the same.

Whether Spurs are doing this remains to be seen. Whether they get it right or not also.

Again, only time will tell there, but they absolutely MUST demonstrate that this Summer, show us the first buds of an organised plan and have the courage to stick with it. Better yet, share the plan with the fans, give us something tangible so that we can at least stop the speculation and understand what the club is aiming to do. I think the majority would be a fair bit more patient as a result, so long as we can at least see that the plan is realistic and begins to show some evidence that its beginning to work.

Do I have faith that this will happen? No.

But I maintain the hope.
 
erlee said:
///If Ange is an 8/10 risk then Slot is a 7.5 in my eyes.

Managers now realised Spurs is a risk too, Risk to Failure & getting axed.
JUst get someone who is in it for the money. give him 1+1 season contract,.
Farke or Benitez or Rodgers.
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That video absolutely nails it. The club is an absolute mess, ENIC have to spend, spend, spend.
 
Ionman34 said:
The vision can be simple. From the vision you build the plan. The Chairman will be involved in that, even if it is just to oversee progress, but he will have a plan provided to him that has to be convincing enough for him to sign off on. I went through this the other day, scope, pitch, sign off.

From that point onwards, it's the job of the DoF, to appoint whatever staff are required to fulfill his remit. If he's already got a manager in then he's ahead of the game.

On your second paragraph, I can't really argue against that and, to be honest, don't want to either. It's the single biggest issue I have with the leadership. I don't bang on about it because we have plenty on here who do. Every. Single. Day. They've been poor, really poor on that front, there simply isn't a cogent argument that can gainsay that.

As for your last paragraph, I can't really answer that question. I know how the mechanics work as I've been involved with companies who've started out on a new vision, after the previous direction proved to be a failure, and they've come good even though the Chairman/CEO has remained in place. Different industry, but the principle remains the same.

Whether Spurs are doing this remains to be seen. Whether they get it right or not also.

Again, only time will tell there, but they absolutely MUST demonstrate that this Summer, show us the first buds of an organised plan and have the courage to stick with it. Better yet, share the plan with the fans, give us something tangible so that we can at least stop the speculation and understand what the club is aiming to do. I think the majority would be a fair bit more patient as a result, so long as we can at least see that the plan is realistic and begins to show some evidence that its beginning to work.

Do I have faith that this will happen? No.

But I maintain the hope.
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This part in bold is massive.


When they go 70 odd days with no sign of the vison/plan and all we have to base guesses on is paper speculation it's understandable that people assume they don't have a plan.
 
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