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Player wanted out, only wanted to go one destination and this Berta fella probably told them it's the best they can offer but he promises he'll make the deal permanent in 2026 and threw in a 10% sell on to sweeten the deal.

(Riiiiight...... A 'gentleman's agreement'?)


......Except Ornstein himself says it's merely an "option".
 
(Riiiiight...... A 'gentleman's agreement'?)


......Except Ornstein himself says it's merely an "option".
I’m sure I heard something recently about obligations and options on a pod. Said that an obligation meant the money was considered spent in this year’s PSR, but an option meant it would be next year instead. That lot did the same the season they signed Raya on loan.

Pretty sure this deal means they are presently potless and BL have an agreement that the deal is definite in 12 months.
 
I’m sure I heard something recently about obligations and options on a pod. Said that an obligation meant the money was considered spent in this year’s PSR, but an option meant it would be next year instead. That lot did the same the season they signed Raya on loan.

Pretty sure this deal means they are presently potless and BL have an agreement that the deal is definite in 12 months.

I can't speak to what credibility an undefined pod carries...... but it's scary how many people are proving not to know the meaning of the 2 words and can't differentiate just cos they both start with 'O'.

(Fair enough..... Give foreign fans a pass, but the Brits, Yanks etc...? Get a grip.)
 
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I speak to what credibility an undefined pod carries...... but it's scary how many people are proving not to know the meaning of the 2 words and can't differentiate just cos they both start with 'O'.

(Fair enough..... Give foreign fans a pass, but the Brits, Yanks etc...? Get a grip.)
I listen to a few pods, so forgive my lack of precision when naming which one it was. I can certainly tell the difference between the two words though. Just posting what I heard.
 
Yeh; I get that in both regards.
Ok. Wasn’t really sure what your reply meant to be honest.

Anyway, a wee google shows a loan with obligation means the transfer fee triggers at the end of the loan, which for Hincapie would be before June 30th, so this years accounts.

As it’s an option, the fee can be triggered after this; so hitting next years figures instead.
 
Ok. Wasn’t really sure what your reply meant to be honest.

Anyway, a wee google shows a loan with obligation means the transfer fee triggers at the end of the loan, which for Hincapie would be before June 30th, so this years accounts.

Well yeh...... That side of the coin speaks for itself.

As it’s an option, the fee can be triggered after this; so hitting next years figures instead.

"Option" means you are not compelled to purchase the player........

We've seen that with Kulu, GLC, Tel (all of whom we CHOSE to follow up on)..... Gedson Fernandes & Giollini (who we didn't follow up on)....... Pahlinha could yet stay or go as per our eventual decision.

I'm not sure what you read or how credible the writer is; but these examples tell their own story.
 
Well yeh...... That side of the coin speaks for itself.



"Option" means you are not compelled to purchase the player........

We've seen that with Kulu, GLC, Tel (all of whom we CHOSE to follow up on)..... Gedson Fernandes & Giollini (who we didn't follow up on)....... Pahlinha could yet stay or go as per our eventual decision.

I'm not sure what you read or how credible the writer is; but these examples tell their own story.
The implication was that as far as the authorities are concerned, this is an option, as Raya was, but in reality, there’s a firm agreement between the teams and the player that it’s not an option, but 100% going to happen.
 
The implication was that as far as the authorities are concerned, this is an option, as Raya was, but in reality, there’s a firm agreement between the teams and the player that it’s not an option, but 100% going to happen.

What you describe all sounds well and good; but legally and contractually Arse would still have every right to just walk away if they wanted to. It's just another spin on Harry Kane's fabled 'gentleman's agreement'.

You started off speaking of what these terms truly mean (according to a podcast and a "wee google"); I was actually more interested in that tbh.... Who's doling out these definitions that are contrary to the accepted meaning of the word "option".
 
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In surprised sky sports news haven’t headlines up for the arrssenholes signing hincapie from under our noses……
( only linked with us along with 40000 other players this summer. )
 
I’m sure I heard something recently about obligations and options on a pod. Said that an obligation meant the money was considered spent in this year’s PSR, but an option meant it would be next year instead. That lot did the same the season they signed Raya on loan.

Pretty sure this deal means they are presently potless and BL have an agreement that the deal is definite in 12 months.

No either way the money would be considered to he part of the following years PSR.
 
I’m sure I heard something recently about obligations and options on a pod. Said that an obligation meant the money was considered spent in this year’s PSR, but an option meant it would be next year instead. That lot did the same the season they signed Raya on loan.

Pretty sure this deal means they are presently potless and BL have an agreement that the deal is definite in 12 months.

View: https://x.com/gunnerblog/status/1961722527660626147?t=KOUFn7uBdYTKhNBivrouBQ&s=19

You were right.
 
Ok. Wasn’t really sure what your reply meant to be honest.

Anyway, a wee google shows a loan with obligation means the transfer fee triggers at the end of the loan, which for Hincapie would be before June 30th, so this years accounts.

As it’s an option, the fee can be triggered after this; so hitting next years figures instead.
If that’s the case, why even create an obligation transfer? There’s no benefit is there?
 
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