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Supporters Our fanbase need to have a long hard look at themselves. (You let ENIC get away with this!)
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The sad truth is that the fans can't do shit about it. Football is not a game for the fans, it hasn't been for a long time.
Levy & Co. are a (pretty big) cog in the wheel of an industry that caters to a global audience - pretty sure the sale of global TV rights now exceeds the domestic..... The FA turnover is around 500m annually.
Match-going fans are second to the INDUSTRY in that respect - and every club owner knows it.
you're the one who doesn't understand something thats written in plain English.
For the absence of doubt, I share your opinions on trying to force the hand of ENIC, but telling people who just paid around a £100 to get in, to then walk out without watching a game (60, 000 of them) is about as likely to work as playing snowball tennis in hell.
As I said, ENIC own the club, and if they want to put it into receivership, level the stadium and sell the real estate to Tesco, there's not a damn thing any supporters can do about it. It is their business, and they can run it how they damn well like.
Which is why you and I are so angry about the situation.
So after all that nonsense you've finally come back with something I can reply to although it's still tinted with your usual condescending crap initially.
What do you think the point of a protest is? Protests aren't meant to be convenient or luxurious, they're not meant to be cosy, as I said if you want to makens change you have to sacrifice yourself.
Liverpool fans did exactly the same thing when FSG raised their ticket prices by way, they organised a walkout which was effective to the point where they went back on their decision, it can be done.
Also to your point, there are TV's on the concourses so fans can still watch.
and those TV's are sponsored by the people who pay ENIC the kind of money that makes the gesture futile.
It wasn't condescending, I said something and you struggled to grasp it.
Your protest has no impact on ENIC, they know what they are doing.
Your idea is like going into an optician and stabbing yourself in the eye as a protest at the cost of the glasses
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What does this even mean? (in bold) Are you suggesting that watching TV's on the concourse as opposed to watching it in the stands makes no difference whatsoever? If so you've failed to grasp the point I was making.
The protest is meant to make an impact on the team and the players, that's the point like it did for Liverpool because when their fans did it it caused a massive distraction for them and they ended up conceding, it raised awareness because fans were prepared to walk out just to send a message, it made media coverage and all the focus was on them and in turn the board and FSG reversed their decision or raising ticket prices.
This is fundamentally a better idea of forming a protest because everyone it's the only time everyone is in the same place at the same time.
By the way I'm not expecting ENIC to up and leave, I do think you can put more pressure on them though, which is the point of the thread.
True, one sees many man-children at any game...
agreed, it wasn't clear - the football on TV is provided by the TV companies that have the franchise that they pay a fortune for, and that fortune is a massive part of the clubs income, which will enable them to ride out the fan base trying to use it to leverage change. The crowds will always come back, because thats what being a supporter means.
Ticket prices aren't the issue though are they - the issue is much deeper and more fundamental
what we want is a total mindshift in funding the team and competing for players who will earn us the success on the field.
30% of the crowd going for an early pint won't force that change.
I am with you in spirit, and want what you want - but turning up for a gunfight with Enic, holding nothing but your dick ain't going to frighten them into submission.
Fenway actually want the rewards from success on the field and silverware, Enic just want us to tick over and stay in sight of the top and they have dropped off even further in bolstering the team. Lewis won't let Levy gamble with his profits in the hope that we might start winning things, despite the rewards that it brings.
I know you are exagerating but it's not quite as easy as that , all Haringey Council have to do is list the stadium as an Asset of Community Value.
Even ENIC can't fight Haringey Council, Mayor of London and UK Government if all came our against them, maybe the Government could even sanction Levy and ENIC as they did Abramovitch if they ever condsidered closing Spurs down.
A League One football stadium will continue to have protected status after its listing as an Asset of Community Value (ACV) was renewed.
Northampton Town Supporters' Trust said it had been successful in extending the ACV covering Northampton Town's Sixfields Stadium until 2029.
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I realise that - the loss in jobs alone in the area would delay and prevent that from happening.
Best way to protest against ENIC/Levy and embarrass them is to continue the chant "We want Levy out" not only during the match but pre match as well .
I have nothing against Paul Coyte but when he next does an interview with a fan celeb or former player down by the south stand get the chant going, it will also get picked up by the pre match warm up show with Ben Haines that goes out on the Spurs app , just make it embarrassing for the owners, might even getting a celeb joining in
I have nothing against Paul Coyte but when he next does an interview with a fan celeb or former player down by the south stand get the chant going, it will also get picked up by the pre match warm up show with Ben Haines that goes out on the Spurs app , just make it embarrassing for the owners, might even getting a celeb joining in
Remember that during the great Covid lie, owners and tv networks realised that you can play in an empty stadium.
Think of all the overseas tv rights fees.
Think of all the overseas tv rights fees.
Obviously they're wary of the long standing bitter rivalry between the two clubs
I've spent the last 3 min reflecting on myself. I'm quite sleepy now.
If I had 10 billion. I'd buy the club and straight away get poch back to settle it all down for a couple of years. Then give him a billion to spend on players. I'd have 5 billion left for myself. Would bring in van der vaart, alderweireld, vertonghen as coaching and academy set up. I'd have hoddle and redknapp as part of the board as advisories.
Levy frustrates me and he's largely failed the footballing team (particularly from 2019 to now), but he's nowhere near as bad as half the people on here make him out to be!
He's not perfect but he got some things right! I genuinely believe he cares more than alot of other owners!
Right time to mute my notifications for the next 24 hours because I'll be very unpopular!!!
He's not perfect but he got some things right! I genuinely believe he cares more than alot of other owners!
Right time to mute my notifications for the next 24 hours because I'll be very unpopular!!!