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Management Question - If Ange does win the Europa he'll be the best manager in the last 40yrs?

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Ange be the bestest if he wins Europa Leauge?

  • Uhu I guess

    Votes: 14 14.9%

  • No fukkin way

    Votes: 80 85.1%
  • Total voters
    94
If the EL is won I doubt Ange will be thought of as a particularly good manager here. I very much doubt he will still have a job here.

Given that time heals most wounds, I think as time rolls on, his stocks and the memory of him will rise.

There will always be a picture of him near that trophy.

So in the short term he probably won't be viewed as a Spurs managerial icon.

In the long term he will always get a warm reception from Spurs faithful. And fond memories and tales will be told about him.
 
guyt2030 said:
Dude that Era with Venables & Sugar is in many documentaries...I remember living through it but I had no idea about the backstage stuff cos I was a kid but I love watching documentaries about it :)
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It was exciting (I'm thinking late 80s to 1990 when I left London) and we had a very nice team, some good managers too, but the business stuff was horrific when you find out about it.

Scholar was an appalling chairman, I think that the nightmare of his term lingers on in Levy's mind, rightly or wrongly.
 
If we win the EL Ange will be looked back at fondly in many years to come.

Like how we remember George Graham.

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Ulrikacoglou said:
If we win the EL Ange will be looked back at fondly in many years to come.

Like how we remember George Graham.

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When Graham took over we were a mid table team for a past decade. At least he didn't do worse and won a trophy.
Ange might get us over 20 losses in the PL era. Heck he might even beat the 22 losses we had back in 1935 that will etch his name in our history.

Plus, its his demeanor that people don't like. I doubt people will be too fond of him. Plus, we will NOT win the EL.
 
Ulrikacoglou said:
If we win the EL Ange will be looked back at fondly in many years to come.

Like how we remember George Graham.

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In retrospect, I can't entirely hate Graham (although I did at at the time). We shouldn't have sacked him before the 2001 Semi against Arsen*l, just like we shouldn’t have sacked Mourinho, for all his sins, before the City final.

Similarly, I can't entirely hate Juande.

They won things for us. Most don't. It's not like we have Liverpool or City's trophy cabinet to compare it with.

I hate Terry Neill a whole lot more for example.
 
bk_spur said:
A successful season for me consists of 1) strong performance in the league, and 2) best effort in cups

A manager should be able to reasonably compete in all competitions they are in if they have handled their summer business and roster building correctly.

As such, if Ange won EL I would not call this a successful season- our league performance has been too poor.
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Which begs the question what is going to happen to him if we do fluke the cup? Is he going to stay? Heaven help us....
 
Bill Madrid said:
It was exciting (I'm thinking late 80s to 1990 when I left London) and we had a very nice team, some good managers too, but the business stuff was horrific when you find out about it.

Scholar was an appalling chairman, I think that the nightmare of his term lingers on in Levy's mind, rightly or wrongly.
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agree - I don't want to steer it into Levy but he has created a sustainable club during my kid years I didn;t know how fukked up our club was.

That aside - I agree it was exciting but I sometimes feel I'm wearing rose tinted glasses without knowing everything at the time.

When it comes to George Graham I can only recollect the years he managed Spurs - I knew he did things for Arenal but I wasn't there all I remember is he Signed Ian Wright cos he is a local legend where I grew up (SE LONDON)
 
The league is the ultimate measure of how well you're doing. Cups are not only much more luck based (you lose one game and can be eliminated) but are not even taken nearly as seriously (bar the CL which were not in).

I for sure hope we win the el (although give us a very small chance) but Ange should still go regardless, and I say that as someone who backed him for as long as one reasonably could
 
guyt2030 said:
Hey All,

This was a legit question I was asked by a Spurs fan who started following Spurs in the late 2000's

My first question was have you seen the last managers in the last 40yrs? no neither have I - I would say he's the first manager to get a European Cup but you can't take away the complete disaster these last two seasons were! So even IF he gets the cup no I wouldn't say so in the slightest...

Just to read the room - thoughts on this?
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Most successful; yes.
Best; no.

Is Ramos currently our best of the last 25 years?
 
The issue we have now is:

Few top flight managers will want to manage here, we do not have a roster capable of doing anything significant. Our best player in Son is in decline our strikers are average at best, and our keeper is an Angeball keeper.

It will be more sidewards moves, no trophies and lots of 5th and 6 league position finishes with someone like Iraola.
 
SpursNation said:
The issue we have now is:

Few top flight managers will want to manage here, we do not have a roster capable of doing anything significant. Our best player in Son is in decline our strikers are average at best, and our keeper is an Angeball keeper.

It will be more sidewards moves, no trophies and lots of 5th and 6 league position finishes with someone like Iraola.
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Well you're positive about the future !!
No one knows the potential of this roster plus a few additions until we get a proper manager.
 
If we somehow manage to win the EL it will be despite of Ange not because of him. He is a charmless arrogant oaf who has been fully exposed at premier league level. He should have been sacked months ago and his childish petulance at Chelsea on Thursday was hugely disrespectful to our loyal and magnificent away supporters.
 
Bill Madrid said:
We finished 10th, 11th, 12th didn't we? It was my first year in Madrid.

The only English football on TV was the FA Cup Final. I listened to the occasional last 15 minutes of other games on the BBC World Service. That was it.

Papers only got here one or two days late. Back then, The Guardian’s football coverage was dreadful. If i was flush I'd buy the Daily Mail which was decent back then for sport.

Tell that to the internet kids of today, they just laugh in your face.

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Guardian still is terrible mate
 
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