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I'm not going to go too much more in to this for fear of my own sanity being breached, but I'm always surprised during these discussions when white people talk with such clarity about black experience. From my knowledge there's been two people of colour speaking in this thread (there maybe more that I'm not aware of) and I'd say their experiences and testimonies hold a fair bit of weight.

Racism is conscious and unconscious. Racism is structural. Racism is real, and very much a daily struggle for many people living in the UK. I know some of us would like to feel otherwise, some of us are certain that we rarely encounter (or heaven forbid, are responsible for) racism in our daily lives and some might be honest enough to admit that they grow tired or even angry about discussions around racism and discrimination. But you have to ask yourself why that is, and why you feel that way.

Simply dismissing the growth of the far right as being made up trivialises a very real threat that makes the world a lot less safe for a lot of people.

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Talking about racism ( and sectarian bigotry ; which is exactly the same thing IMO ) .

From today ;


I know I’m probably a bit naive about Racism at our club ; but f=ck me , we’re a million miles ahead of most , if not all of the others out there .

It’s something to be proud about and something we need to protect .

Again just my opinion.
 
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probably get a foul for this
but
am i the only one that wants the rainbow spurs flag in the left corner gone
i feel like since we got this flag in the top left corner the club gets worst each year since its there

ps: dont have a problem with rainbow and stuff but iam too dumb to understand what sexual orientation and football have in common
You think the flag is bringing us bad luck? Right, ok...
 
It doesn't matter how you find out, if you find out an employee holds views that are not in line with the company's standards and could make other employees uncomfortable then you have the right to sack them.
Don’t agree. Sounds a bit thought policey too. That would also mean my company sacking everyone Muslim or Christian given our corporate inclusion stance on e.g. LGBQT+ A decent world is allowing people of very different views to coexist happily.
 
I've yet to see one scientific study that correlates flags, gestures, banners and sloganeering with increased outcomes of tolerance. Not that the world seems to obey laws of logic and reason anymore.
Also, why the hell do we have a flag that is there to highlight some peoples’ varied sexual preferences. I mean honestly, what has that got to do with a sports match? Let everyone and anyone come to the football just for the football please. The cultural lecturing you get nowadays is vomit worthy.
 
Also, why the hell do we have a flag that is there to highlight some peoples’ varied sexual preferences. I mean honestly, what has that got to do with a sports match? Let everyone and anyone come to the football just for the football please. The cultural lecturing you get nowadays is vomit worthy.

Yes it is weird, Levy loves a bit of woke branding and community catchwords to gloss over his Ponzi scheme.

Ironically, one thing that would bring everyone together, bridging cultural differences and divides would be:

Good football and a well funded team ('top 4' wages and established players). At the moment we are stuck with shiny surfaces.
 
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There is so much hate in the world nowadays I'd be amazed if there wasn't any racists at Spurs. The of Europe and a lot of the whole world seems to be moving to the right side of politics.

Governments across the world are running out of money with a few people holding more wealth than was ever thought possible.

The system is absolutely broken.

Usual answer though.
Blame the poor, disabled and the foreigners. Not the fact the rich are just working out how not to pay taxes all the time.

Amongst which across the west - and the UK is super guilty of this - the average person needs to get in crazy levels of debt just to survive.
While Musk is now worth over £300billion. And stoking political flames across the world.

It’s insane.

I’m so glad I’m not 20 years old.
 
Also, why the hell do we have a flag that is there to highlight some peoples’ varied sexual preferences. I mean honestly, what has that got to do with a sports match? Let everyone and anyone come to the football just for the football please. The cultural lecturing you get nowadays is vomit worthy.

If we think there is a problem with racism at football matches let’s speak about homophobia.
It’s probably rife on here and we just overlook it.

So I 100% see the point of the flag the laces etc etc and what they are trying to achieve. Just like the kick it out campaign. You need to raise awareness to educate people.

What do you honestly think would happen if say 20 footballers came out tomorrow over the 92 clubs.
Would they be treated by fans like black players in the 80s were. A constant target for abuse?

Personally I don’t believe that sinceJustin Fashanu there have been hardly any gay professional footballers over the last 30 odd years in England. How many have actually come out while playing? Is it one or two?
 
Also, why the hell do we have a flag that is there to highlight some peoples’ varied sexual preferences. I mean honestly, what has that got to do with a sports match? Let everyone and anyone come to the football just for the football please. The cultural lecturing you get nowadays is vomit worthy.
You're clearly not gay or know anyone who is LGBTQ+.

The flag is a reminder that Spurs accepts everyone to games.


I don't see the issue with it
 
Yes it is weird, Levy loves a bit of woke branding and community catchwords to gloss over his Ponzi scheme.

Ironically, one thing that would bring everyone together, bridging cultural differences and divides would be:

Good football and a well funded team ('top 4' wages and established players). At the moment we are stuck with shiny surfaces.

Anyone who uses the term ‘woke’ as if it’s supposed to be an insult shouldn’t be allowed out in public because they’re too stupid to live.

‘Woke’ is just a stupid, grossly over-used word for things the alt/far-right don’t like. A populist soundbite used by cunts and the brainwashed.

That flag isn’t hurting you. SpiderSpurs SpiderSpurs explained it very well.

Dry your eyes.
 
Anyone who uses the term ‘woke’ as if it’s supposed to be an insult shouldn’t be allowed out in public because they’re too stupid to live.

‘Woke’ is just a stupid, grossly over-used word for things the alt/far-right don’t like. A populist soundbite used by cunts and the brainwashed.

That flag isn’t hurting you. SpiderSpurs SpiderSpurs explained it very well.

Dry your eyes.
Makes me laugh the Woke snowflakes are trying to cancel me .

No you say whatever you like mate , if somebody says you are ignorant for saying that you are both exercising your freedom of speech.

The ultimate irony Rupert Lowe has a pop at Farage , next thing you know Reform are reporting him to the police for swearing at one of them .

The right are the snowflakes

Clarkson always crying in his beer , he fucking chinned a young guy working on Top Gear and we still have to see his ugly mug. The beer he is crying in is his own brand which he sells very successfully , hardly being cancelled .


BBC ware right to cancel him from Top Gear they have a duty of care to staff . Also Farage practically has his own seat on Question Time
 
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Governments across the world are running out of money with a few people holding more wealth than was ever thought possible.

The system is absolutely broken.

Usual answer though.
Blame the poor, disabled and the foreigners. Not the fact the rich are just working out how not to pay taxes all the time.

Amongst which across the west - and the UK is super guilty of this - the average person needs to get in crazy levels of debt just to survive.
While Musk is now worth over £300billion. And stoking political flames across the world.

It’s insane.

I’m so glad I’m not 20 years old.

Or instead of blaming the Rich and looking to take more tax from individuals (not talking about corporations here), we could blame the actual source of the problem, which are the irresponsible governments and central banks at the source of the money in first place. The ones who can’t manage their own budgets so print money constantly and then via a system of corrupted incentives, wash that printed money out into corporate hands and then hope it trickles down.

Other than that, I fully agree that the idea of blaming individuals who are different to you (immigration etc) is nothing more than a distraction. I’m just saying that blaming the rich is the same distraction just in different clothes.
 
Also, why the hell do we have a flag that is there to highlight some peoples’ varied sexual preferences. I mean honestly, what has that got to do with a sports match? Let everyone and anyone come to the football just for the football please. The cultural lecturing you get nowadays is vomit worthy.

Flags and sports go together.

I’ve got no issues with pretty much any flag in our stadium as long as it belongs to a Spurs fan.

The thing that connects me to the people in that stadium is being Spurs. Where they are from and who they want to shag is completely fine with me as long as the flag also has the Spurs crest or logo on it.

Obvious exception being half and half flags. I don’t care what team it is, if you take a half and half to a football game you are asking for abuse and I’m not here to defend you.
 
Anyone who uses the term ‘woke’ as if it’s supposed to be an insult shouldn’t be allowed out in public because they’re too stupid to live.

‘Woke’ is just a stupid, grossly over-used word for things the alt/far-right don’t like. A populist soundbite used by cunts and the brainwashed.

That flag isn’t hurting you. SpiderSpurs SpiderSpurs explained it very well.

Dry your eyes.
Sorry, I won’t disrespect Levy again with that word. Can I use ‘corporate virtue signaling’ babes?
 
If we think there is a problem with racism at football matches let’s speak about homophobia.
It’s probably rife on here and we just overlook it.

So I 100% see the point of the flag the laces etc etc and what they are trying to achieve. Just like the kick it out campaign. You need to raise awareness to educate people.

What do you honestly think would happen if say 20 footballers came out tomorrow over the 92 clubs.
Would they be treated by fans like black players in the 80s were. A constant target for abuse?

Personally I don’t believe that sinceJustin Fashanu there have been hardly any gay professional footballers over the last 30 odd years in England. How many have actually come out while playing? Is it one or two?

I hear you and don’t disagree with any point other than the last.

If a footballer came out as gay I think it would be a massive nothing burger. In England at least. Honestly 99% of people wouldn’t care. They’d get more abuse for being ginger or having a shit haircut with weird eyes (Anthony Gordon I’m looking at you here).

I think perversely, any comments they did receive from the very odd Neanderthal moron would end up getting amplified by the media. Likely with the intent to expose it (also for the clicks) but also unfortunately be just as likely to incentivize trolls to try and get the same attention.
 
I hear you and don’t disagree with any point other than the last.

If a footballer came out as gay I think it would be a massive nothing burger. In England at least. Honestly 99% of people wouldn’t care. They’d get more abuse for being ginger or having a shit haircut with weird eyes (Anthony Gordon I’m looking at you here).

I think perversely, any comments they did receive from the very odd Neanderthal moron would end up getting amplified by the media. Likely with the intent to expose it (also for the clicks) but also unfortunately be just as likely to incentivize trolls to try and get the same attention.
I don’t think there’s enough clicks and attention in the world to keep everyone on all sides happy
 
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