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If Gabriel cheated to fool the Ref, what was fucking VAR doing? It’s a clear an obvious error
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Rules Referees & Impartiality: Can this be delivered on a consistent basis?
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If Gabriel cheated to fool the Ref, what was fucking VAR doing? It’s a clear an obvious error
Are these official and these are reviews of VAR decisions and not opinion pieces, and is there anything on refereeing decisions before they even get to VAR, 50/50's, bookings etc...?
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That's the premise of my argument not VAR calls because VAR calls tend to lean into objectivity - I'm talking about bias lean into subjectivity.
So do you think this and the Ekitike ones should be both goals or both fouls? Did have a quick flick through that Liverpool match thread and saw you did call the Ekitike one a blatant foul.
I think Ekitike is a foul and RKM isn’t
But I’m a Spurs fan so understand my own bias. The refs aren’t meant to be biased but how is it we have yesterday, Ekitike, West Ham, Gabriel in the NLD last season, the Newcastle one recently…
Everytime Spurs get fucked? That’s not a coincidence.
The thing is if the previous one was given when the push was more blatant than last night, our goal should stand. We didn't even see VAR review in action to contest whether or not that's a foul. How unbelievable was that? The ref was the quickest to give it no goal, almost instinctively to chalk it off by any means. And that's sickening.
I never want to hear those cunts pundits to mention a word about consistency in officiating. All those fucking hypocrites.
Eh??? How can they differ.
I think by the letter of the law both should be fouls.
It’s hard to swallow when we’ve had players booked (rightfully) for simulation recently.
I’m sure the referees do their best blah blah blah, but when this shit happens, confirmation bias sets in and it’s hard not to come to the conclusion that we’re treated differently to other teams. The stat the other week showing how we are league leaders in card to foul ratio adds more fuel to the fire.
I’m sure the referees do their best blah blah blah, but when this shit happens, confirmation bias sets in and it’s hard not to come to the conclusion that we’re treated differently to other teams. The stat the other week showing how we are league leaders in card to foul ratio adds more fuel to the fire.
Yeah it's crazy that Gabriel did the exact same move on Romero last season and nothing, perfectly good goal supposedly
Remember that cunt rat gary Neville saying Romero needed to be stronger.
Premier league is either massively corrupt or the most incompetent and most biased officiated top league
Because IMO RKM’s are already extended and locked before his hands touch Gabriel. There isn’t a push because he’s got no leverage to push. Hes even moving backwards by the time his hands touch Gabriel. It’s a defensive touch to protect his space from a defender backing in. Hes doing it because he’s read the fight and has the position to defend.
IMO Ekitike jumps into Romero to win the space where the ball is arriving. Romero actually had the position until Ekitike jumped into him. Ekitike is moving forwards to win the space.
But I get it, I’m biased.
Really all we can ask for is consistency and there is none
It's been obvious to me for some time that the Premier League, in respect of how VAR has been misused, is 100% corrupt.
When VAR was originally used, after the 2018 World Cup, it actually got more decisions correct, players who dived were punished and the cheating stopped. Goals, where the linesman had raised his flag too soon, were corrected. The lobbying and surrounding of referees became pointless. Refs shrugged their shoulders and waited for VAR to replace 'the rub of the green' and the old cliche about it evening itself out over the season.
No coincidence that all of this coincided with Manchester United's downturn in fortunes and slide down the table.
Then came the calls for the pitchside monitor, led by gobshite Nev and the usual suspects, who love to talk and often harranged referees during their playing careers.
This was the end of VAR being useful.
The lobbying returned, so did the diving and cheating.
A further development was the ridiculous length of time VAR began to take to make a decision which looked obvious. Goals were disallowed, for spurious incidents in the build up play, and frustrated supporters began routinely singing; " fuck VAR" as the circus got more and more ridiculous.
Now we have ended up with VAR making the same errors refs used to and a passive acceptance of the now farcial situation from the media, pundits and supporters.
The game is bent.
VAR, when used correctly, was working.
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Those two, cunts
All 1 off bits and pieces. Its consistent with us. I never said conspiracy thats you using that word. Bias and incompetence are totally different.
Hence what i said about refs for leicester and officials in fa wanting certain teams to win
Like the way he said "you as a Spurs fan" indicating he is not
The officials will say the consistency is that in both scenarios the referee used their judgement and VAR didn't need to intervene
But that just means VAR is entirely pointless and we should have just stuck with the "if in the opinion of the referee" position that we'd had for nearly 150 years
You've been led into that conclusion by the corrupt nature of those administering VAR, since the introduction of the pitchside monitor, and outside voices, like gobshite Nev, influencing the outcomes.
VAR is a useful tool for the ref when he can't see things that have happened.
It has been made ineffective and frustrating by those who have administered it in the Premier League.
Fine - but regardless I don't think the benefits outweigh the negatives
If you were worried about your house getting burgled; would you take down your CCTV?
Think about it.
VAR should be a useful, extra tool for the referee.
Who benefits from VAR being shit and the punters accepting the inconsistent and frustrating outcomes?
Football has gone the way of boxing and horse racing.
Every advert during televised coverage.
For anything you say to have any value you would need to gather info on other fans subjective view of how they are refereed.
Or else your view is just as bias and you think the referees are.
This is mental.