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Management Relegation

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Do you think we'll stay up?

  • Yes

    Votes: 184 40.1%

  • No

    Votes: 275 59.9%
  • Total voters
    459
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WillWilliams said:
Start of Feb we were 2% and West Ham 75%.
So it’s safe to say that computer is a bit shit. Not super at all.

Probably just a bloke called Dave.
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Even some bloke called Dave could see a pattern and momentum emerging but this dumb computer isn't taking any of these things into account.

No matter how many games we lose it still just thinks we're likely to win all the games it decided we'd win earlier, it's a fatally flawed model.
 
This whole experience has humbled the fuck out of me.

I’ll never scoff at the UEFA conference league ever again, it we ever qualify for it again it will hit like crack after experiencing this shit.
 
As awful as feelings are now, if the season ended today we would stay up. As bad as it is, there are plenty of games remaining.

And the donkeys who have authored the dire stretch of play over the last 10 are largely the same who were good enough over the 10 games previous to that. Not good, but if that were replicated over the last 10 it would probably be good enough.

I am not here to spread hope or optimism, but it is a fact that saving ourselves remains a possibility. We still have no less than one chance in three.

We need someone to get the players to do it and we need the players to do it. They are not capable of great things, but they are capable of better.

If we lose the 6 pointer to Forest I will probably resign this position. But for now: there is plenty of time, there is a group of players who have been good enough at times, and there's a must-win game approaching which (perhaps alone) could save us.

You who are waiting in the lifeboats will laugh me to scorn if I stay on the ship until the end and that's fine, but I would rather maintain belief for now than pull the future's misery forward to today when it may not happen at all.
 
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JimothyCF14 said:
Even some bloke called Dave could see a pattern and momentum emerging but this dumb computer isn't taking any of these things into account.

No matter how many games we lose it still just thinks we're likely to win all the games it decided we'd win earlier, it's a fatally flawed model.
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It's easy to tell that model is working with a relatively robust weighting of "team strength" that understands that Tottenham has "better" players.

And we do. But that hasn't mattered on the pitch for months. This isn't a team suffering bad luck or succumbing to weak individual moments that are costing us results, we just absolutely suck out loud.
 
Jenderbazzfass said:
As awful as feelings are now, if the season ended today we would stay up. As bad as it is, there are plenty of games remaining.

And the donkeys who have authored the dire stretch of play over the last 10 are largely the same who were good enough over the 10 previous to that to keep us up. Not good, but if that were replicated over the last 10 it would probably be good enough.

I am not here to spread hope or optimism, but it is a fact that saving ourselves remains a possibility. We still have no less than one chance in three.

We need someone to get the players to do it and we need the players to do it. They are not capable of great things, but they are capable of better.

If we lose the 6 pointer to Forest I will probably resign this position. But for now: there is plenty of time, there is a group of players who have been good enough at times, and there's a must-win game approaching which (perhaps alone) could save us.

You who are waiting in the lifeboats will laugh me to scorn if I stay on the ship until the end and that's fine, but I would rather maintain belief for now than pull the future's misery forward to today when it may not happen at all.
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In those plenty of games remaining, where do you see a pount coming from. We're a single point above relation and West Ham have gained 14 points on us since January. The very fact that there are games left is what fuck us, not the other way around.
 
Fattynomates said:
What will be will be , we have no say on what the future holds this season , it’s looking likely we go down however I think there are a few more twists In this yet , whatever happens it’s just a fucking game, there are more important things in life to stress about !
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This is exactly where I am. Yeah it's fucking unreal and unbelievable we may well get relegated but this has been set in motion for ages. We've been in managed decline for a long time. Arguably since Poch left there has been something fundamentally wrong in the club.

I am not sure what it is exactly, but under Jose, Conte, Ange and Frank, the football has largely been dire, with so many performances where we genuinely look like the worst team in the league.

We had Kane and Son to paper over the cracks though and since they've moved on, we've been exposed terribly.

Our recruitment has been shocking. But more importantly, the culture is all wrong. Whether it's signing the wrong personalities, a lack of excellence within the club, a lack of standards. To me it's like the players have a mix of crisis of confidence, some are nowhere near good enough, and some that just don't give a fuck. It even looks like some actively hate the club and the fanbase and probably aren't fussed if we go down. (VDV)

Vicario should have been replaced a long time ago, but the club decided to stick with a keeper who actively costs us goals. This is exactly what the problem is, a lack of direction and proper management at the club. Why do we persist with a player nowhere near good enough in a key position? This would never happen at another top 6 club. We are the worst run in the league.

I have properly checked out, I didn't watch any of the game last night, first time I have done that for as long as I can remember. Only other time I have done that is if I was out and missed the game, saw we'd lost and not bothered to watch the recording.

But I was at home last night and just had Sky News on in the background, didn't even switch it over to watch.

If we go down, we go down. There's more important things in life. It is what it is ultimately. It won't be the fans fault. Yes we are the ones that suffer, but there is nothing we can do about it. Hopefully if the worst happens, it will set of a chain of events which eventually resets the club and exorcises whatever awful stuff has been at the club the last few years.
 
Papafeels said:
In those plenty of games remaining, where do you see a pount coming from. We're a single point above relation and West Ham have gained 14 points on us since January. The very fact that there are games left is what fuck us, not the other way around.
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I don't believe we are bad enough to finish on a run of 15 games without a single point. The record for all time is 20. We are not Derby or Sunderland or whomever. We have players who previous to this run had earned 29 points from 24 games. They are capable of earning 1 from 10.
 
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