Palhinha is on loan . You think he’d sign with us on a permanent ?
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Palhinha is on loan . You think he’d sign with us on a permanent ?
If that included data on free kicks conceded vs awarded, you would really see the truth.
On so many occasions this season, the refs have flat out refused to let us play football.
Giving reds, penalties, disallowed goals etc grabs attention. But giving one team noticeably more free kicks than the other doesn't get talked about at all
You would never guess?
Ornstein confirmed Levy put it in the players contracts.
Archie Gray doesn't deserve this. Romero VDV Spence and Porro deserve 70 %
No offence but a tweet confirms this ?
Who do you think will stay having 50% of their wage cut ?
Players have the power these days … if a player wants out , they go .
Looking at the upcoming matches for teams in the bottom. I can see WH getting 7 or 8 points from their next 4 matches.
We made CP look like prime Barca, and Brentford might be cruising by the time they play WH.
One more nuggest to think of, the potential of having a huge club like Tottenham go down is exciting other teams. When we play teams, they might put more effort to push us over the cliff. It is an exciting and motivated story to make them up their game against us. This is not the same when they play WH or NF. Both were relegated many times and not looked at as a big of a deal if they do down again. (For wrestling fans) it is like the elimination match where you have 20 wrestlers tossing each other outside the ring and doing their things, but when Andre the Giant is on the robes, you see 10 or 12 of them jumping on it and pushing him out (I know it is wrestling and scripted) but still, the fans even get on it when that happens.
Oh God, we are screwed.
That's why it is a no brainer that we go get an English manager for these 7 games. One who understand this dynamic and how English game and league works. What Tottenham mean in English football, and the scale of the task facing us.
We made CP look like prime Barca, and Brentford might be cruising by the time they play WH.
One more nuggest to think of, the potential of having a huge club like Tottenham go down is exciting other teams. When we play teams, they might put more effort to push us over the cliff. It is an exciting and motivated story to make them up their game against us. This is not the same when they play WH or NF. Both were relegated many times and not looked at as a big of a deal if they do down again. (For wrestling fans) it is like the elimination match where you have 20 wrestlers tossing each other outside the ring and doing their things, but when Andre the Giant is on the robes, you see 10 or 12 of them jumping on it and pushing him out (I know it is wrestling and scripted) but still, the fans even get on it when that happens.
Oh God, we are screwed.
That's why it is a no brainer that we go get an English manager for these 7 games. One who understand this dynamic and how English game and league works. What Tottenham mean in English football, and the scale of the task facing us.
Don’t most clubs do that? It makes sense to me.
The guy at Tamworth Town would fit those job requirements; but would he be prepared to risk his reputation.
Yes, Ornstein is by far the most reliable voice in football so I would very surprised if it isn’t true.
View: https://x.com/david_ornstein/status/2028471748992127191?s=46&t=Gc6HrWVZT0mtSXU7r8ZBIQ
As for player power that is simply not true. Kane tried everything to go to City and it didn’t happen. If a player is on a long contract they have little to no power. Only players in their last 1-2 years will have power to make moves. For us it will come down to finances, how much we need to raise and who we want to keep. The club isn’t a charity.
Until things actually happen , I’d take it all with a pinch of salt
Kane has gone . And I’m pretty sure international players will be handing in transfers requests like confetti IF we do actually go down
Maybe. Yes, we will be champo-shite, but if the cash is decent, Poch is manager, and he gets to live in London, maybe he will. Will depend I think on whether Poch (if he is here) wants him.
Yes Kane went when he was in the last year because it was our final time to sell., he couldn’t go before that despite best efforts.
I support Dyche as No.1, and Big Sam as No.2 for the remainder of the season. Nothing like it will have ever been seen, or be seen again. I'd even offer to play all our remaining games mid-week in Stoke.
I doubt it, but worth a try (suggest it's not Vinai who calls). While on the call, see if we can get Tonks on loan for the remaining games also - for his howitzer.
No they don't - as we've proved before with numerous players, including Kane recently, players who are under contract go when the club says they can go. There are not many players who will down tool so much that they ruin their own careers, so (much like Kane in his last season), having had a little sulk they then have to get on with doing what they are damn well contracted to do until the club decides they can leave.
I agree and hopefully there’s mortar Tommy Tonks than just that .
Not all but most of the power rests with the players.
It may well be they are on long contracts and it may be that some ( I somehow doubt all ) have relegation clause and that doesn’t just mean a cut in wages if the worse happens. It’s highly likely that in those same relegation clauses will be mentioned a fee size that players will be able to leave for.
But that isn’t the worse. There is something in FIFA articles (Article 17 also know as a Webster ruling)that will allow : Vicario, van de Ven, Romero,Udogie,Spence,Poro, Bentancur, Sarr,Kulusevski,Maddison and Solanke to all claim sporting just cause and walk away from their contracts.
Of course that’s not going to happen to the all or indeed any of them but if they do there is nothing the club can do to stop them..
There wouldn’t be a fee but instead compensation and that would be not even be close to the value of the player.
What that means, even if they don’t leave on what’s called a Webster, they can threaten to do so if the club don’t formally agree for the players to sold for a much reduced sum.
Rarely do we know that players have used this mechanism but not that long ago the EU have ruled that no longer do any club a player signs after hold any word of joint liability .
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Im sorry but who has stayed that wanted to leave ? They always go. VdV has as much Ed downed tools , Modric did , Kane to an extent but clubs are aware of situations & know how good these players are
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