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Management Relegation

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Cranston said:
It’s not nostalgia. AvB was an odd character that obviously rubbed certain people in the club the wrong way. He also joined us when fans probably did have delusions of grandeur.

The football was dour but he was, at worst, a competent manager that would even have enjoyed some success at a more ambitious club.

Ange is basically Tim Sherwood but there’s no gilet that fits him.
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I think that's harsh on Tactics Tim.

Little known fact, he gave Harry Kane his debut.

:sherwoodlol:
 
Notabadsquad said:
[Relegation is] 100% possible, whatever anyone thinks.
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Out of curiosity, I looked up how many points third bottom teams in the EPL achieved over the last 10 years:
26,34,35,28,34,34,33,34,37,35.
We have 24 points, so 4 wins from our next 17 games should make Notabadsquad happy.
I say happy....
 
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Kosher Kid said:
For me a lot of what Venables did was questionable.

Paul Stewart was a big money centre forward signing and was a complete flop in that role. It was why it was then necessary to sign Lineker. Stewart did go on to become a very good central midfield player but that was more by luck than judgement in my opinion. The loss Spurs would have incurred on selling Stewart as a failed striker was the real reason he got a further chance in midfield. Spurs were by then skint.

Gordon Durie for 2 million plus was another questionable deal along with that useless arse Jason Cundy from Venable's first love; Chelsea.

Venables was also the reason Spurs got saddled with Alan Sugar and the era of the 'limited budgets' began.

Look at the squad Venables inherited from David Pleat and then look at the squad Ossie Ardiles inherited from Venables.

Venables won the FA Cup in 91 and achieved a 3rd place league finish in 90 but by the time Gascoigne and Lineker left he had turned a silk purse into a sows ear in my opinion. Ossie and Gerry Francis were left with a big job on their hands.
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Interesting perspective.

I went on a stadium tour with Gary Mabbutt a couple of years’ ago. He said that almost straight after the cup final win, Venables essentially disappeared. The management teams and players after him desperately needed his support and personality, but he fancied himself as something bigger and better in the boardroom. Mabbutt even tried to talk him into supporting the first team operation more, but he wasn’t interested. Strange but apparently true.
 
Legacy Lilywhite said:
Interesting perspective.

I went on a stadium tour with Gary Mabbutt a couple of years’ ago. He said that almost straight after the cup final win, Venables essentially disappeared. The management teams and players after him desperately needed his support and personality, but he fancied himself as something bigger and better in the boardroom. Mabbutt even tried to talk him into supporting the first team operation more, but he wasn’t interested. Strange but apparently true.
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Sugar said that, soon after he took over the club, TV said to him something like " Leave the business side of it to me, Alan."
 
We probably need 5 wins to stay up... looking at the remaining fixtures here are the best chances

Leicester, Man U, Southampton and Palace at home and maybe Ipswich away but honestly can't see much more than a few draws from games like Everton away and Bournemouth home. That should get us to 41 pts which should be enough... sad times.
 
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