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Management Relegation

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Have to disagree on this. 3 defeats? We've lost 18 of our last 30 league games. We rarely draw. Looking at those fixtures i barely see 10/12 pts.
Worst case scenario we get 9-12 pts...so finishing on 33-37 pts...defo relegation material.

Best case scenario we only lose another 3 or 4 but pick up 6 or 7 wins, the rest being draws. Probably means 45-48 pts and finishing P13-14.

As always with Spurs it'll be somewhere round the middle, say 40ish pts and P15 or 16.
 
Worst case scenario we get 9-12 pts...so finishing on 33-37 pts...defo relegation material.

Best case scenario we only lose another 3 or 4 but pick up 6 or 7 wins, the rest being draws. Probably means 45-48 pts and finishing P13-14.

As always with Spurs it'll be somewhere round the middle, say 40ish pts and P15 or 16.
We've lost at home to Ipswich and Leicester, hate to break it to you but worst case scenario is 0 points.

There's only one team in the league that I'd back us to beat right now, Southampton, and in all honesty I'd be watching that game half expecting us to hand them their first win in forever.

3 points against them is pretty much negated by the fact that everyone else is guaranteed to beat them anyway, so zero net gain.
 
We've lost at home to Ipswich and Leicester, hate to break it to you but worst case scenario is 0 points.
Ditto. Now that Saints have fired their version of Ange then there are no managers out there who are worse than our current clown. Saints if you need reminding is the only team that we've beaten since Citeh's weird result in NOVEMBER.

We don't play Saints again till APRIL.

Between now and then I don't see how we can go into any match confident that we will either win or keep a clean sheet.

I suggest for the sanity of everyone here you put Ange In cretins on Ignore. Let religious zealots have their day and their day is not on a Spurs board. Their day is wandering around with a placard saying the End is Nigh and licking windows.
 
I think when the main players will be back (and hopefully don’t pick any more injuries), we will grind some results to push us to 12th-13th.

Nevertheless, if we’re really going to relegate, it’ll be the death of this club. Imagine we’ll probably have to sell half of the team because I doubt most of them will want to stick around, even the younger players like Bergvall or Sarr. Having to rebuild from that will take loads of planning and I seriously doubt anyone does that at this club.
 
I think when the main players will be back (and hopefully don’t pick any more injuries), we will grind some results to push us to 12th-13th.

Nevertheless, if we’re really going to relegate, it’ll be the death of this club. Imagine we’ll probably have to sell half of the team because I doubt most of them will want to stick around, even the younger players like Bergvall or Sarr. Having to rebuild from that will take loads of planning and I seriously doubt anyone does that at this club.
Please stop this “players back” nonsense. Ange steady state is 10-12 players injured.
 
Please stop this “players back” nonsense. Ange steady state is 10-12 players injured.
I agree holding out hope for the 'return of players' for me isn't going to cut the mustard

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That £100m pa loss of revenue is interesting. Would be likely more for us given our higher revenues depend on status essentially. We might be £150m pa down - over 1/4 of our revenue.

What that wipes off the value off Levy's asset is down to how likely you think it would be that we come back up quickly. It's pretty clear that it would be a very sizeable hundreds of millions and potentiall £1bn+ hit to valuation. Huge loss of prestige and place at the top table with relegation.
 
That £100m pa loss of revenue is interesting. Would be likely more for us given our higher revenues depend on status essentially. We might be £150m pa down - over 1/4 of our revenue.

What that wipes off the value off Levy's asset is down to how likely you think it would be that we come back up quickly. It's pretty clear that it would be a very sizeable hundreds of millions and potentiall £1bn+ hit to valuation.
That would be the first year, the parachute payments get smaller year on year until they stop.

Going down is bad, staying down one season is worse. Being stuck there a third season would be cataclysmic.

But there's too many on here who feel comfortable with the idea.
 
That would be the first year, the parachute payments get smaller year on year until they stop.

Going down is bad, staying down one season is worse. Being stuck there a third season would be cataclysmic.

But there's too many on here who feel comfortable with the idea.
Would it be worse than paying Levy's match ticket ransom, to watch a catogory c team, by his own measure, in 19 league games or having to try and sell the tickets when the season unravels?

No need for a membership if Spurs are relegated.

Tickets will be cheaper, less people in the ground, less merch, food and drink sales but an increase in anger with Daniel Greedy.
 
Would it be worse than paying Levy's match ticket ransom, to watch a catogory c team, by his own measure, in 19 league games or having to try and sell the tickets when the season unravels?

No need for a membership if Spurs are relegated.

Tickets will be cheaper, less people in the ground, less merch, food and drink sales but an increase in anger with Daniel Greedy.

We'd still be stuck with ENIC except we'd be watching even worse football than no with no guarantee he'd lower ticket prices

I just don't see a win there
 
Similar things were said to doubters when we were one point away from top four. Amazing how the expectations have shifted. Now the mantra is we won't be relegated.. well we just lost to two teams in the relegation scrap.

I understand how hard it is to switch mindset, I was fully Ange in for a long time, however I drew a red line for myself and said what would it take for me to be Ange out. For me we crossed that line a long time ago. Painful rebuild does not mean losing to Leicester at home, or losing to Ipswich at home.
I was Ange In until yesterday. I thought we would beat Leicester but unfortunately it's got to the point where I just don't trust him to get enough points to keep us in the Premier League. I think even Ryan Mason will be more pragmatic and grind out results where necessary.

The progress in the cups has swayed my judgement quite a bit but yesterday was the point where I felt I could no longer ignore our poor league form. A reasonably comfortable mid-table position and success in the cups = fine. Lower mid-table but no significant danger of relegation = ok. A relegation battle = absolutely not.
 
I was Ange In until yesterday. I thought we would beat Leicester but unfortunately it's got to the point where I just don't trust him to get enough points to keep us in the Premier League. I think even Ryan Mason will be more pragmatic and grind out results where necessary.

The progress in the cups has swayed my judgement quite a bit but yesterday was the point where I felt I could no longer ignore our poor league form. A reasonably comfortable mid-table position and success in the cups = fine. Lower mid-table but no significant danger of relegation = ok. A relegation battle = absolutely not.
XACTLY

If we can't win games we can't win cups SIMPLE
 
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