Not sure banning us from the stadium would be the threat they think it is!
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Not sure banning us from the stadium would be the threat they think it is!
For how terrible the injuries and performances there is still a lot of worth on paper for this squad. Club will take around £200m hit minus 50% wage reduction so about £100m I think we would need to find. Squad is around £400m so probably have to figure out who to let go to make up that number.
Vicario: £20m
Kinsky: £10m
Porro: £30m
Spence: £20m
Romero: £50m
VDV: £60m
Vuskovic: £90m
Udogie: £30m
Dragusin: £10m
Danso: £30m
Souza: £15m
Davies: NA
Gray: £60m
Bergvall: £60m
Bentancur:£10m
Sarr: £15m
Gallagher: £20m
Palhinha: NA
Bissouma: NA
Muani: NA
Solanke: £40m
Richy: NA
Tel: £20m
Moore: £30m
Odobert: £20m
Kudus: £30m
Maddison: £40m
Simons: £30m
Kulusevski: £40m
Vicario: £20m
Kinsky: £10m
Porro: £30m
Spence: £20m
Romero: £50m
VDV: £60m
Vuskovic: £90m
Udogie: £30m
Dragusin: £10m
Danso: £30m
Souza: £15m
Davies: NA
Gray: £60m
Bergvall: £60m
Bentancur:£10m
Sarr: £15m
Gallagher: £20m
Palhinha: NA
Bissouma: NA
Muani: NA
Solanke: £40m
Richy: NA
Tel: £20m
Moore: £30m
Odobert: £20m
Kudus: £30m
Maddison: £40m
Simons: £30m
Kulusevski: £40m
Play some youngsters - if we,re gonna go - lets go with a bit of pride in tact.
I’m not so sure!
He’s been twerking for yonks and will bet on his own capability to get us straight back up.
If he’s offered it he may think it’s now or never and I won’t get offered it again if I turn it down.
And live in London with his family which they now call home.
Well everything Poch has poured out in podcasts etc. over the last few years (most notably the recent High Performance one) is complete bullshit!
I doubt he’ll get offered it again if he turns us down in the summer,
Fair enough if that's what you are getting from it..... looking and acting dejected can be a symptom of a number of things.
VDV, for example, was trying to drive the team forward consistently at 0-0 - he certainly looked like he gave a shit. And his getting sent off was not borne out of a lack of desire.
Most of these players havent been in a relegation battle either - and many of them are still young men who are absolutely struggling with the pressure, which is not something you can teach to get out of.
Villa fan in peace here. We obviously had a longer period circling the drain before we were relegated and had a worse squad than you do but there are a lot of similarities in us being an established premier league side of similar side who went down. I thought I’d share a perspective on what happens when a club like ours is relegated.
Firstly the championship was a lot of fun. After years of shit football it was really enjoyable to win some games and compete for promotion.
Although we presumed we’d come straight back up it was much harder than that and we finished 13th, 4th and 5th before coming up through the play offs at the second go. It’s hard for the reasons your fans are aware of…fire sale of decent players, getting stuck with the overpaid once-hyped players whose wages stop them moving on…being your oppositions cup final for every league game.
If we hadn’t gone up when we did we’d have been in serious shit financially. We’d been run as a lower table side for a few years but had a couple of past it players on high wages (Lescott, Agbonlahor, Micah Richard’s) and we were stuck with 2 of these for the remainder of their contracts despite them not playing for us in the championship.
I’m no expert on Spurs finances, I know you’re in much better financial shape than we were when we went down. That can cut both ways though as I imagine you will have a far higher wage bill than we did. I’m not sure what the deal is with your stadium and if you’re still paying for that but just from the playing side you will be out in serious jeopardy.
I’ve got no real love or hate for spurs. But it’s shit watching your team lose all the time especially when you’ve been used to being better than that.
I watched the game last night and it looks pretty hopeless for you guys right now. If there’s any hope I can offer, it’s that for a few years before we actually went down I was convinced we would and then each time we pulled something unexpected out of the bag. Until we didn’t. Good luck.
Firstly the championship was a lot of fun. After years of shit football it was really enjoyable to win some games and compete for promotion.
Although we presumed we’d come straight back up it was much harder than that and we finished 13th, 4th and 5th before coming up through the play offs at the second go. It’s hard for the reasons your fans are aware of…fire sale of decent players, getting stuck with the overpaid once-hyped players whose wages stop them moving on…being your oppositions cup final for every league game.
If we hadn’t gone up when we did we’d have been in serious shit financially. We’d been run as a lower table side for a few years but had a couple of past it players on high wages (Lescott, Agbonlahor, Micah Richard’s) and we were stuck with 2 of these for the remainder of their contracts despite them not playing for us in the championship.
I’m no expert on Spurs finances, I know you’re in much better financial shape than we were when we went down. That can cut both ways though as I imagine you will have a far higher wage bill than we did. I’m not sure what the deal is with your stadium and if you’re still paying for that but just from the playing side you will be out in serious jeopardy.
I’ve got no real love or hate for spurs. But it’s shit watching your team lose all the time especially when you’ve been used to being better than that.
I watched the game last night and it looks pretty hopeless for you guys right now. If there’s any hope I can offer, it’s that for a few years before we actually went down I was convinced we would and then each time we pulled something unexpected out of the bag. Until we didn’t. Good luck.
The media have been reveling in us selling our 'stars' if we get relegated but I'lI really have no care for any of them. Archie Gray seems to have heart and maybe Bergvall, but otherwise I'd be quite happy for a total reset and to never see 95% of this squad again. The rotten losing culture has to be dealt with.
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Never in my lifetime of supporting Spurs would I term it as being ‘cushty’!!
Purgatory would be more accurate!
Sure there have been great spells, but even during those we seem to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
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Cheers the other aspect that might not be obvious to outsiders is the injury/suspension situation. We have had 10 or so players injured at all times, we have a few back with Danso and Porro but it’s not enough. Without Bergvall, Maddison, Kulusevski, Bentancur, Udogie, Romero and now VDV out for 1 match the team has a massive lack in quality and the chopping and changing. Think of Villa without 8-10 first team players every game.
The only way we survive is the last 7 games we might have most of our players back and we win 3-4 of them.
We definitely do not have stars
Good comparison as I remember how feeble that Villa team were (Garde and Tactics Tim?)
It's a sobering thought as I have been thinking this Spurs isn't getting promoted on the first try from the Championship.
Never in my lifetime of supporting Spurs would I term it as ‘cushty’!!
Purgatory would be more accurate!
What 90% of football fans would have given for what? 17 out of the last 19 years with European football?
I had no idea ENIC had defenders remaining. Will these wonders never cease?
I don’t think people have grasped the fact that relegation clauses work two ways.
Yes players can agree to accept a pay reduction but some simply won’t sign if the club insists but even those that do agree often have a clause agreeing that the player will be sold if there is relegation and what the fee that they will be sold for is.
They'd have to have done it before HT yesterday.Not sure banning us from the stadium would be the threat they think it is!
I’m not getting into a long back and forth about it, but describing supporting Spurs as ‘cushty’ is one of the daftest things I’ve seen written!
I think if they were honest, most fans of other clubs would acknowledge we’ve put up with more than our fair share of pain!
Trouble is that the cunts in charge will use that money to ensure their financials remain the same instead of making the side over.
I fully expect that if we go down they will reason that the squad is still mostly PL players and thus already good enough, with some loan players and average replacements, to achieve immediate promotion.
Let’s be honest, these thieves made talk about changing this year and did nothing as a slow-motion car crash unfolded. They are just as likely to fail to earn promotion next year through cheapness and indifference. There is no evidence they have a clue what to do even if they desired to change
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