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Management Relegation
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At this rate we can't even rely on fukkin goal difference...
The reality is, if I had to pick a combined 11. Id have more Forest than spurs players in it.
We’ve had zero fortune but aside from that, yeah, this team is simply pathetic.
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Completely agree.No one thought it was fine.
People tried to warn you that it wasn't simply down to the manager and sacking him wouldn't have us magically "fly up the table". You didn't listen.
In August you were on here gloating about how Thomas Frank was the messiah. You were so fucking full of hubris.
Now here we are. and you still won't take any fucking responsibility for how catastrophically wrong you were. And taking pops at people who have been proved manifestly correct.
A manager was sacked who all the players fought for. He had them believing they could run through walls.
We all know the league form was shit. I even expected Ange to be sacked by Christmas tbh but he would have done better than Frank.
None of our players admired Frank. Maybe Porro but he's toxic.
They weren't inspired by him. They didn't want him from day 1 but we were all told it'd be fine cos he wasn't the 'fat Aussie'.
No-one from the boardroom to the players escape blame for this shit show.
The only innocent party in all this are the fans and we're the only ones who will suffer the consequences.
Yup. They've got better CMs, better fullbacks, a better keeper and for their style of play probably better centre backs too. Their squad is top 10 quality, they just fucked themselves by binning Nuno and trying to change styles completely a month into a season when they already had a winning formula.
The difference in body language between Milenković and Romero was huge. One fighting for everything, sticking his body on the line, leading by example, the other lazily jogging back as our captain.
To avoid relegation something dynamic is needed.
Doing nothing is accepting relegation
All the analysis is now irrelevant.
4 teams are still in the frame but unless we start to put some pressure on all 3 of them we will soon be cast adrift.
Doing nothing is accepting relegation
All the analysis is now irrelevant.
4 teams are still in the frame but unless we start to put some pressure on all 3 of them we will soon be cast adrift.
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i think we get redknapp in, not sure if it will work tho. these players are fucking shit! just have to hope he plays the strongest 11 and we dont have too many weak players involved.
They're coping well with getting fucked every week
You are what your record says you are
Yeah I think there was some cultural whiplash too.
Love him or hate him (both opinions are very present on TFC) Ange is an inspirational bloke and a good talker. He sold the players a dream and they loved him for it. His gameplan was flawed but there was always this sense that there was a promiseland we were aiming for - a utopian vision. This is why some people still fawn over him on here - they bought into his vision and still believe it.
Now don't get me wrong, I was in favour of sacking him - teams had figured us out and he was unable to adapt - but going from an ambitious style of play and dreaming big, to "one thing is certain - we will lose games" Thomas Frank playing shit football and a guy with the charisma of a substitute PE teacher. That's a hell of a turnaround.
We didn't just do a 180 in playstyle, we did a 180 in club culture and messaging too.
Nah the fans aren’t innocent.
We are all in this together. Win, lose or draw.
And as fans we don’t choose the manager. We can just choose to support him when he’s here.
Wanted Conte gone, then called Mason a cunt, wanted Ange gone. Fat cunt he is. Wanted Frank gone. Now general consensus - we probably want Tudor gone.
Let’s not pretend we are the most supportive fanbase in the world.
Called Levy trigger happy. Think he just mirrored what he felt in the ground in hindsight.
The fans being the innocent victim is a lie. Maybe some are - a real minority. The majority need to realise they are part of the problem.
Majority had minimum belief we would win a trophy last year. Even now the trophy win is looked down on.
I gave up my ST post Covid and stopped buying membership.
Just didn’t enjoy going to games anymore. Unless I was South stand standing it was boring as fuck. Tourists everywhere and people moaning a lot.
And yet I still got a ticket for a European QF in the standing section with no membership such was the level of interest from the fanbase.
Losing 6-0 on aggregate to a fellow relegation candidate tells you a lot
We are in deep shit
We are in deep shit
When we play our Stars Romero and Van de Ven, who can't defend at all, we lose 3-0 Vs Forrest.
Who would you play over Tel and Kudus of the players available?
Seems about right
Relegation. I imagine they can cope with that.
They don’t have to cope with that. Most of them will just leave, as I imagine the club will be in major wages cutting mode.
In my opinion we just lost the easiest of our remaining fixtures, and we lost badly. I am pretty sure Tudor will be gone in the next few days and then the board will no doubt make another catastrophic appointment. I think it's time we all come to the conclusion we are getting relegated
The support on Wednesday was a different beast to yesterday. Couple of us wished the booers stayed away like they had for half of this season. Our fan base is certainly part of the problem. The sense of entitlement mixed with fragility is painful.
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