Kulu and Madders have goals in them tho.I think 5th-6th is a bit optimistic given the quality of our forwards. Richy, Solanke, Muani.
7th-8th sounds about right.
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Kulu and Madders have goals in them tho.I think 5th-6th is a bit optimistic given the quality of our forwards. Richy, Solanke, Muani.
7th-8th sounds about right.
Yeah that's what worries meYeah I agree. My other fear (other than going down) is that zero lessons are learned and the manager isn’t backed. He’ll fuck off and we end up in the same boat next season
I've factored that in. Plus the creativity they will give us. I just think the three I named are a serious drag factor.
Don't assume! I would never have put us in the position we are in. I think with RDZ we should be looking higher now, but the results and our position dont lie - we deserve to finish wherever we finish so to assume that for a 3rd season in a row we aren't going to finish 17th is I think presumptuous.At least we won't have to worry about relegation next season when we stay up. The 3 teams coming up are to weak.
Don't assume! I would never have put us in the position we are in. I think with RDZ we should be looking higher now, but the results and our position dont lie - we deserve to finish wherever we finish so to assume that for a 3rd season in a row we aren't going to finish 17th is I think presumptuous.
What this has taught me is to be a lot more humble. This season has been absolute torture. I just hope we can do what we need to do to forget this season....
Yes, I like de Zerbi.If the club doesn't learn it's lesson of the last two years and we finish towards the bottom again then there really is no hope, one thing though they seem to have got one thing right so far and that's the manager and he immediately takes us up another couple levels of what we've witnessed over the past 2 years.
If the club doesn't learn it's lesson of the last two years and we finish towards the bottom again then there really is no hope, one thing though they seem to have got one thing right so far and that's the manager and he immediately takes us up another couple levels of what we've witnessed over the past 2 years.
We need to stay up, first and foremost but 100%.
Equally however and this is the contentious and more difficult bit, you must have the right players at the club.
A lot of the players who are supposedly our leaders are not what are needed at this club. I think that group are obvious.
My worry is that those in the club and maybe De Zerbi don't see it.
Culture needs to be right and I think it's far more important to focus on that and get these 2 clowns out than just merely signing good players, we need direction first and foremost.
Completely agree with you re RDZ - he can make us play, but we need Lange and Vinai out and a really decent transfer strategy in the summer to move us in the right direction.If the club doesn't learn it's lesson of the last two years and we finish towards the bottom again then there really is no hope, one thing though they seem to have got one thing right so far and that's the manager and he immediately takes us up another couple levels of what we've witnessed over the past 2 years.
Solanke and Maddison available for the last 2 games.
Just a clean sheet does it for us.
AbsolutelyWhat I'd really love is for us to win our last two and Forest lose against B'mouth and we finish above them.
Would bring me great satisfaction.
Been mouthy cunts this season.
Only 12 points from 6th to 16th is a tiny gap. We'd be somewhere in that range with a normal-ish number of injuries and De Zerbi in charge the whole season - exactly where would in no small part be down to luck. But it really wouldn't take a ton of improvement in the summer, combined with far fewer fixtures, for us to qualify for Europe next season.Where would this squad/manager/ownership be in the table if they were fully fit?
Completely agree with you re RDZ - he can make us play, but we need Lange and Vinai out and a really decent transfer strategy in the summer to move us in the right direction.
We cannot afford to dilly dally on transfers. Need to bring players in that lift the quality early and get rid of those who don't and there are a lot those.
And it’s worse now that we’re being run but two complete idiots.Consecutive 17th place finishes
Surely to fuck they recognise its time to start buying bonfide quality and not opportunistic mediocre squad fillers.
I mean ffs surely the penny has dropped.
Years and years of trying to be too clever in the market finally caught up.
Porro also, tired of watching him be out of position the last 3 years too often .Vicario, Richarlison, RKM, Bissouma, Sarr I'd be moving on without question.
Obviously there's other who may well get moved on and rightly so, but those five would be first up imo.
They've all had countless opportunities. Not good enough.
So many to choose. Vic, Dragusin, Spence, Bissouma, Sarr, Muani, Davies, Richy, Solomon, Scarlett, Veliz, and decisions on Palhinha (i am not 100% on him) and Bentancur (never been sure on him).Vicario, Richarlison, RKM, Bissouma, Sarr I'd be moving on without question.
Obviously there's other who may well get moved on and rightly so, but those five would be first up imo.
They've all had countless opportunities. Not good enough.