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Roberto Soldado

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Really cant be arsed to read all the posts, so can someone feel me in on where we r with Bobby now?? is he not gd enough for us now? or do we still rate him as highly as we did when we signed him?

I for 1 think he is class and will get goals just needs time..
 
Really cant be arsed to read all the posts, so can someone feel me in on where we r with Bobby now?? is he not gd enough for us now? or do we still rate him as highly as we did when we signed him?

I for 1 think he is class and will get goals just needs time..


Yes he needs time but that doesn't mean we cant pass an honest opinion on his performances so far.

If you bought a shiny new car and it coughed and spluttered on the way home from the dealers would you continue to drive it not worrying about it?
 
Yes he needs time but that doesn't mean we cant pass an honest opinion on his performances so far.

If you bought a shiny new car and it coughed and spluttered on the way home from the dealers would you continue to drive it not worrying about it?

lol i love the comparison But they are 2 totally different things yes if your car was spluttering you should take it back and go mental esp if uv paid 26 mil for it but in Bobs case i dont think hes coughed or spluttered at all. IMO spluttering would be doing fuck all for instance Ade most of last season the fact he has helped the team so much shows me this 26 mil car is just settling.. taking his time to get up to full speed 1 gear at a time (c what i did there).
 
So it was Russia or us!!!
At least we know he's not just in it for the money!
But you gotta admit, HAD everyone's boyhood club - Real Madrid been back in for him, we wouldn't have stood a chance!

So is the honeymoon officially over with him now or what??!
 
He's gonna start away to Villa, he will get loads of space over there as they will attack, Eriksen will come to his own in this game also which is the key for Roberto. This has to be the game for him....doesn't it
 
Slightly concerned by Soldado's lack of goals...though I personally don't think it's his fault. Not that many good chances have fallen to him in the games played so far.
 
Anyone who hasn't done so already - take a look at Soldado's goals for Valencia over the last 2 seasons. The VAST majority of them are the same type and involve him running into a good position (often beating an offside trap) and receiving the ball either from a low cross or threaded thru-ball from a deeper creative player. 9 times out of 10 he then hits it first time past the keeper.

The big difference between almost all of his goals and his chances this season is that he's been playing in a team that doesn't pressure the opposition team into their final third. Compressing the play, as we do, leads to less space for beating the offside trap and no room for low crosses - it's no surprise he's starved of supply. Look at the chances he nearly scored - an opportunic backheel against the bar, a point blank block to deny him against Woolwich - he's certainly got a goalscorers instinct.

I genuinely have no idea why AVB (I assume) picked Soldado to spearhead his attack unless he feels that Soldado's game can adapt to our style. Given our investment, I bloody well hope he's right.

However, if he doesn't adapt then we need to find someone who can play the most effective way for a compressed tactic - someone like a Tevez, who can dribble and bully his way into a shooting position, or someone like Llorente who can physically dominate the defences in order to bring attacking midfielders into goalscoring opportunities or provide a target for higher crosses / passes into the box.
 
Anyone who hasn't done so already - take a look at Soldado's goals for Valencia over the last 2 seasons. The VAST majority of them are the same type and involve him running into a good position (often beating an offside trap) and receiving the ball either from a low cross or threaded thru-ball from a deeper creative player. 9 times out of 10 he then hits it first time past the keeper.

The big difference between almost all of his goals and his chances this season is that he's been playing in a team that doesn't pressure the opposition team into their final third. Compressing the play, as we do, leads to less space for beating the offside trap and no room for low crosses - it's no surprise he's starved of supply. Look at the chances he nearly scored - an opportunic backheel against the bar, a point blank block to deny him against Woolwich - he's certainly got a goalscorers instinct.

I genuinely have no idea why AVB (I assume) picked Soldado to spearhead his attack unless he feels that Soldado's game can adapt to our style. Given our investment, I bloody well hope he's right.

However, if he doesn't adapt then we need to find someone who can play the most effective way for a compressed tactic - someone like a Tevez, who can dribble and bully his way into a shooting position, :defoe: or someone like Llorente who can physically dominate the defences :adestare: in order to bring attacking midfielders into goalscoring opportunities or provide a target for higher crosses / passes into the box.
 
Aye Eskimo, I'd agree that JD and Ade are the closest fit that we have although I'm not sure I've often seen Defoe dribble past a defender or physically bully one into making an error.

Defoe = back to goal, one touch to his left (onto his right foot), low-backlift smash. Probably more effective than Soldado's natural game in our formation but some way short of a perfect fit.

I like Soldado, I really do. I just think he's a fantastic player to have in a counterattacking formation or conventional 4-4-2.
 
I saw Bobby this morning, dropping his kid at school in Hampstead. Swanky red sports car (maybe a Ferrari couldn't tell as I was driving past)

I was gonna shout yiddo! But we aren't allowed :soldadolol:
 
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Llorente could be available http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2453154/Woolwich-want-Fernando-Llorente-loan.html

We should make a move and pair him with Soldado, fellow countryman both need a boost of confidence could work out well we can offer Adebigwhore as part of any loan deal.
 
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